Gencon over, gimme Manta!
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Matt teased us with:
"In other news, we have just had a bunch of Star Fleet books turn up, all very useful for A Call to Arms: Star Fleet. Sand is just coming to the end of her Noble Armada ship schedule, will be working on a 28mm scale Manta Prowl tank for Judge Dredd (really!), and then she dives into Star Fleet for the next four months!"
"In other news, we have just had a bunch of Star Fleet books turn up, all very useful for A Call to Arms: Star Fleet. Sand is just coming to the end of her Noble Armada ship schedule, will be working on a 28mm scale Manta Prowl tank for Judge Dredd (really!), and then she dives into Star Fleet for the next four months!"
Pop quiz for all you Manta-watchers...
This monster will be about the size of a GW Baneblade, and is very heavily detailed. It will be cast in resin, and comes with a small stand that will allow it to 'float' just off the ground.
The turret rotates, and it has optional parts for the 'wings' to be folded in or out.
What would you think of paying for such a monster? We do not believe we will sell loads of these, which suggests the price would be towards the high end. We are not thinking Forge World pricing, but I think we would be approaching it.
Let us know your thoughts...
This monster will be about the size of a GW Baneblade, and is very heavily detailed. It will be cast in resin, and comes with a small stand that will allow it to 'float' just off the ground.
The turret rotates, and it has optional parts for the 'wings' to be folded in or out.
What would you think of paying for such a monster? We do not believe we will sell loads of these, which suggests the price would be towards the high end. We are not thinking Forge World pricing, but I think we would be approaching it.
Let us know your thoughts...
Forge World Super Heavy Tanks (Baneblades etc) cost from £75-£100. Thats a lot of money for a gaming miniature that probably wont get a lot of use by its very nature and will take many hours of work before it can be displayed. Thats also the cost before shipping of big fragile bits of resin is factored in (I would hope to pick up mine at Salute or similar if possible).
I will very likely buy one 28mm model of a Manta because I have wanted one since I was a kid and will enjoy finally getting to paint one. If it costs~£50-£75 I would consider buying two, but its unlikely really. If it costs more than that I will definitely only get one. It really is at the top end of my hobby budget limits though: the sort of purchase that can only be made once a year.
I like resin models but very large vehicles with multiple elements can be a pain to assemble. The casting has to be very precise or it can become a chore very quickly. This is even more important when assembling a smooth lined, sci-fi vehicle like a Manta. The quality of the castings would be a large factor in whether I would buy multiple Mantas.
Personally I dont really want to spend money on detailed interiors and the like, but I may be in the minority there.
I am very pleased to hear that the model is planned to be roughly Baneblade sized. I figured that you guys may have scaled it down for convenience, but it sounds like it will be perfect. Cant wait to see some progress
I will very likely buy one 28mm model of a Manta because I have wanted one since I was a kid and will enjoy finally getting to paint one. If it costs~£50-£75 I would consider buying two, but its unlikely really. If it costs more than that I will definitely only get one. It really is at the top end of my hobby budget limits though: the sort of purchase that can only be made once a year.
I like resin models but very large vehicles with multiple elements can be a pain to assemble. The casting has to be very precise or it can become a chore very quickly. This is even more important when assembling a smooth lined, sci-fi vehicle like a Manta. The quality of the castings would be a large factor in whether I would buy multiple Mantas.
Personally I dont really want to spend money on detailed interiors and the like, but I may be in the minority there.
I am very pleased to hear that the model is planned to be roughly Baneblade sized. I figured that you guys may have scaled it down for convenience, but it sounds like it will be perfect. Cant wait to see some progress
Hmmmm, i'm not sure about this one. On one hand, it'd be a cool mini and i'm sure itd paint up well. On the other hand, i'm not sure when i'd ever use it. After all, in the games i've played, no ones had a reason to shell out for a standard holocaust judge for support, let alone an entire manta. Unless you are looking at moving away from skirmish rules and moving into mass battles, i just cant see them being used as much.
I'm not sure what the current state of materials are at the moment, a lot of companies seem to be focusing on resin at the moment. My only knowledge of resin minis is forgeworld, and frankly, i just wouldnt have the money to go there. If plastic was a cheaper option, i'd say go for that, even if the quality isnt as crisp. I've seen the 40K Baneblade thats standard plastic which is around about £50-£60 if you shop about, and seems every bit as nice as the forgeworld one, from the pics anyway. Something like that, i'd happily pay around £40-£50 for a manta, even if it wasn't really going to see the battlefield.
I do love the fact that the Dredd range is pushing forward, mind you. But i think the appealing thing about it is the size. A gang box set for £20 and your not only off, but you have enough minis to try a few options with and a few to add to your gang as it grows. A judge team can start for less than a tenner. That's just the way i see it.
I'm not sure what the current state of materials are at the moment, a lot of companies seem to be focusing on resin at the moment. My only knowledge of resin minis is forgeworld, and frankly, i just wouldnt have the money to go there. If plastic was a cheaper option, i'd say go for that, even if the quality isnt as crisp. I've seen the 40K Baneblade thats standard plastic which is around about £50-£60 if you shop about, and seems every bit as nice as the forgeworld one, from the pics anyway. Something like that, i'd happily pay around £40-£50 for a manta, even if it wasn't really going to see the battlefield.
I do love the fact that the Dredd range is pushing forward, mind you. But i think the appealing thing about it is the size. A gang box set for £20 and your not only off, but you have enough minis to try a few options with and a few to add to your gang as it grows. A judge team can start for less than a tenner. That's just the way i see it.
Block War rules will be coming soon
Dredd Times
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Hi Matthew,
In all seriousness I think that a kit around the size of a Baneblade should be around £60-75, though I know that a lot of people would be put off spending that amount for a model kit. I definitely want at least one myself and right now I am reworking Dredd Times so would be showcasing it and the new rules/models as they are released, along with the movie stuff and the new official costumes
If you need any help with playtesting, ideas or input please mail me my friend
Marc
In all seriousness I think that a kit around the size of a Baneblade should be around £60-75, though I know that a lot of people would be put off spending that amount for a model kit. I definitely want at least one myself and right now I am reworking Dredd Times so would be showcasing it and the new rules/models as they are released, along with the movie stuff and the new official costumes
If you need any help with playtesting, ideas or input please mail me my friend
Marc
msprange said:Block War rules will be coming soon
Well, that suits me just fine.
As for the Manta... I'll be honest, I love the idea of getting one, but I'd be hard pushed to convince myself I could afford greater than £50. And I know you're talking resin (so probably already planning for that), but plastic would be so very much preferable, at least to me.
necromorph
Mongoose
Why is plastic more expensive than resin, when resin minis are far more expensive than plastic ones? I know nothing about the process of making them, also i have never seen a Baneblade, or know how big they are, but from the JDMG current range, with Fatties and Holocaust 2s being the most expensive, if i was going to get a tank sized model, i'd look at around £30/£40, maybe a little more if its awesome, but much more is into the region of my entire years wargaming budget 
The process of setting up for plastic requires a greater initial outlay, so if you're making mass amounts of it you can still offer products for cheaper (because the plastic itself is cheaper, and the process is relatively straightforward), but if you're doing only a small run you're better off with resin and metal (the latter recently becoming less viable simply because of the prices of white metal alloys).
