I haven't really seen the show, so I was wondering how they are in relation to other races. From what I've heard, they are intelligent, but some things just seem... different. Like the psychic or whoever that is turned into a wierd-ass cyborg in one of the episodes (had something to do with psychics being used for weapons or something). So what are the shadows, exactly?
Fluff for Shadows?
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Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
Nightmares turned reality, silent manipulators, forces of chaos playing games with entire species. Accelerating evolution by survival of the fittest, for their idea of the best for everyone.catbarf said:
You know, bad guys 8)
Wulf
captainsmirk
Mongoose
Actually the Shadows seem to have no "psychic" abilities at all, they are highly vunerable to them however as Shadows use living people as CPU's within their ships, Telepaths can disrupt the link between the two.
The cyborg you mentioned was a Shadow attempt to use Telepaths as pilots as they would be able to resist telepathic attack. Shadow ship pilots were modified to intergrate with any surrounding technology (which is what the "cyborg" was actually doing).
Nick
The cyborg you mentioned was a Shadow attempt to use Telepaths as pilots as they would be able to resist telepathic attack. Shadow ship pilots were modified to intergrate with any surrounding technology (which is what the "cyborg" was actually doing).
Nick
Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
But invisible...Kadorak said:
Wulf
combatdroid113
Mongoose
wow that looks fantastic
[/quote]combatdroid113
Mongoose
so dish the goss where did ya get the picture?
The puzzling thing is that the first ones (including the shadows) were supposedly able to abandon their corporeal bodies and become mostly energy.
I seem to recall someone a short while ago on the forums saying that the invisible insectoid things we see (or rather, don't) are actually the shadows in encounter suits, not unlike the Vorlons.
I seem to recall someone a short while ago on the forums saying that the invisible insectoid things we see (or rather, don't) are actually the shadows in encounter suits, not unlike the Vorlons.
Lorcan Nagle
Mongoose
That's only a theory rather than canon fact - The Vorlons did have a physical body as well. Neither race had taken the final steps towards Transcendance before they went beyond the Rim
Balance said:
Well technicly they ARE doing right thing(what they do DOES help evolution...). It's the way they do that is not "nice" to say the least.
Younger races have evolved into better form due to their action but wether that's good or bad is of course depatable concidering the cost.
captainsmirk said:
Not quite right. There are indications that the Shadows have some form of telepathy, given what happens near Zh'Ha'Dum in the beginning of season 4. The Shadows themselves seem to have a harmful effect upon telepaths (see Talia's encounter in the corridor with them), and certainly their technology "creeps" teeps out at the very least.
The AoG "Wars of the Ancients" supplement (normal caveat on B5W fluff being carried over or not) did neatly explain quite a bit about the Shadows.
In "Ancient" times, the Shadows flew their own ships, and at that point the ships were not susceptible to telepathic interference, even by other Ancients because the Shadows (as indeed all the Ancients) had telepathy on a different "frequency" (for want of a better term) from everyone else.
When the Shadows installed the younger races as CPUs in their craft, the Vorlons seized the opportunity this presented to try and gain an advantage, and started (covertly) engineering telepathy into the younger races on the Vorlon "frequency" so that the later CPUs were susceptible to both the Vorlons, and the operant telepaths this interference produced. The first use of telepaths vs Shadow vessels seems to have been in the previous Shadow War (1000 years BCT) and in the last Shadow War the Shadows were preparing their defence against that measure.
dant164
Mongoose
Shadows arent evil, the same way Vorlons arent good. They have differing philosiphies, they both try to help the galaxy but in different ways, Shadows beleif that Chaos creates the strong, and only the strong survive (Which technically is correct) Vorlons beleif order is the best way to evolve the galaxy and that evolution should hapen in its own time, like gardeners waiting for plants to grow. Shadows are just trying to accelerate the process.
