Fighter Bases

[animus]

Man, what a slow day on the board.

I am cheap and I want to stretch my fighter models into as many flights as possible by mounting them three or even one to a base (each base representing a flight obviously).

I heard somewhere that someone mounted their fighters one to a penny size base and had success with that.

I know the scale thing is out the window in this game, but I was wondering if there was any clarification on fighter stacking in Armageddon or any other rule or thoughts on this kind of thing.

Feel free to post.

 

[Burger]

Fighters can stack on the bases of capital ships, but not on each other. As long as the models look like what they're meant to be (ie. a Nial is a Nial not a Flyer), I don't think anyone would object.

 

[Shadow Queen]

And that is Busted :wink:

 

[animus]

Is there a maximum number of fighters that can swarm a capital ship?

 

[Shadow Queen]

Is there a maximum number of fighters that can swarm a capital ship?

what fits on the base

 

[Burger]

Is there a maximum number of fighters that can swarm a capital ship?

No, it is limited by how many you can cram into the available space.
And there is no regulation base size.
So... using smaller bases, you have an advantage.

 

[animus]

I like the picture....

This is an easy thing to fix - just come up with a maximum number. Someone should take their fighters and pile them up and let us know how many regular bases can stack and us cheapo's will abide by that.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

This is an easy thing to fix - just come up with a maximum number. Someone should take their fighters and pile them up and let us know how many regular bases can stack and us cheapo's will abide by that.

If you do this (and I agree with the idea), remember to give a 'second line' limit for 4" range weapons. The whole idea became much more important since the ruling that fighters can overlap ship bases.

Wulf

 

[katadder]

WS fighters, possibly the best antiship fighters in the game actually come on small flying bases meaning they have smaller bases than most peoples fighters

 

[Voronesh]

Escorting flights do they count as stacked or just as side-by-side?

Seem to remeber something from a all T-Bolt fleet test.

 

[lastbesthope]

Fighters may staxck in only 2 instances:

1) On the base of a ship they are attacking
2) On the base of a ship they are escorting (Max 4 flights per ship)

LBH

 

[Davesaint]

WS fighters, possibly the best antiship fighters in the game actually come on small flying bases meaning they have smaller bases than most peoples fighters

Except as many people have noted, there are no basing conventions for ACTA. So in theory, as long as you can fit all the fighters on it, a 10mm base with 6 fighters or less arranged on them is legal. I was considering basing my t-bolts 1 per 5mm base for use in a tournament. That way I can get about a zillion around the average ship. :wink:


Dave

 

[lastbesthope]

WS fighters, possibly the best antiship fighters in the game actually come on small flying bases meaning they have smaller bases than most peoples fighters

Except as many people have noted, there are no basing conventions for ACTA.

Except there are, these conventions were drawn up for possible future enforcement a while back. they haven't been officially enforced yet, but they're a good guideline in the mean time:

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/ctashipbases.pdf

LBH

 

[Ripple]

Um...how do fighters escort other fighters if they cannot stack? it is part of the definition of escorting is it not?

Ripple

 

[lastbesthope]

it is part of the definition of escorting is it not?

Ripple

It is part of the definition of escorting a ship, fighter escorting is described as "working similarly".

SFOS P 11, 2nd and 3rd columns

LBH

 

[Ripple]

yes...so what does working similarly mean exactly? It list 'except that the maximum number of flights that can support a flight of auxilary craft is one.' There is the rest of the quote. Assuming we are using something close to standard English this would imply that the only difference in the rules would be the number of flights, not the stacking.

Ripple

 

[Davesaint]

WS fighters, possibly the best antiship fighters in the game actually come on small flying bases meaning they have smaller bases than most peoples fighters

Except as many people have noted, there are no basing conventions for ACTA.

Except there are, these conventions were drawn up for possible future enforcement a while back. they haven't been officially enforced yet, but they're a good guideline in the mean time:

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/ctashipbases.pdf

LBH

I am aware of this LBH. I have been pushing for a long time to have these guidelines enforced, but my comments have either fallen on deaf ears, or been vehometly opposed by other people on the board, one of which is a playtester.

Dave

 

[Wulf Corbett]

I am aware of this LBH. I have been pushing for a long time to have these guidelines enforced, but my comments have either fallen on deaf ears, or been vehometly opposed by other people on the board, one of which is a playtester.

Hi :lol:

Wulf

 

[LordClinto]

So there really is no problem with putting fewer fighters on a base is there? And as long as they are on fighter sized bases (whether MGP fighter bases or 1-1/8" / 2.9cm hex) it probably will not break any future required size rules, correct?

Honestly, I can't Imagine Vorlons or Shadow Fighters lining up in a hex formation. And I plan on mine being in a more random flight, with only 3 or 4 per base.

 

[Davesaint]

So there really is no problem with putting fewer fighters on a base is there? And as long as they are on fighter sized bases (whether MGP fighter bases or 1-1/8" / 2.9cm hex) it probably will not break any future required size rules, correct?

Honestly, I can't Imagine Vorlons or Shadow Fighters lining up in a hex formation. And I plan on mine being in a more random flight, with only 3 or 4 per base.

I wouldn't have an issue with it if it was either the hex base that comes with the figures or a base that is the size of the fighter counters.


Dave