Nightmares about Minbari said:
Still too early to say. However, don't expect many, as the Ancients _should_ be limited to a few ships at the top end. . .
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Still too early to say. However, don't expect many, as the Ancients _should_ be limited to a few ships at the top end. . .
Nightmares about Minbari
Mongoose
Personal opinion of course, but think the shadows need 2-3 new combat ships at least, and the Vorlons need a couple of specialists minimum. More would be nice of course.
msprange said:Shadows, for example, are actually going to lose a ship (there are good reasons for it, you'll see). However, we are taking a good look at the Armageddon level Shadow Ship - this is clearly where the monster needs to be, but causes problems, especially for tournament players.
I'm guessing the Hunter... Perhaps moving it to a special "Shadow Orphan" list?
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
At least Shadows now Dont have to pay for fighters for that im happy
Shadow Queen said:
Ah, but they will never get any better at dogfighting, much to the consternation of some of our playtesters
The Ancients just don't do dogfighting - their fighters (or smaller craft, we should say, as they are noticeably larger than the fighters of other races) are used in a different role. . .
Nightmares about Minbari
Mongoose
If they can move second, Vorlon fighters don't need to dogfight, 2AD of anti fighter nastyness! Owch.
Anybody know if beams get to roll again against fighters if they hit, we've been assuming not, but uncertain?
Anybody know if beams get to roll again against fighters if they hit, we've been assuming not, but uncertain?
lastbesthope
Mongoose
msprange said:Shadows, for example, are actually going to lose a ship (there are good reasons for it, you'll see
I think I know which one.... 8)
LBH
Nightmares about Minbari
Mongoose
LBH, it's really not that difficult a guess, three ships, one appears throughout the series, one appears in a key episode of the series, one appears in a spin off show so bad it only made half a series. Hmmmm
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
msprange said:Shadow Queen said:
Ah, but they will never get any better at dogfighting, much to the consternation of some of our playtesters
The Ancients just don't do dogfighting - their fighters (or smaller craft, we should say, as they are noticeably larger than the fighters of other races) are used in a different role. . .
Like securing the area
Nightmares about Minbari
Mongoose
Actually, I kind of like it, it would make a good carrier hull for the shadows. Looks like a carrier to me anyway!
lastbesthope
Mongoose
Nightmares about Minbari said:
Ahh, but I know where it ends up as well.
I'm not the only one who knows outside the Mongoose staff, but still, I allow myself a little smugness :wink:
LBH
Nightmares about Minbari
Mongoose
OH, so not just being dropped, but going into the new uber-badguys fleet is it?
lastbesthope
Mongoose
Depending on your definition of uberbadguy, very much so :twisted:
They will likely become my 2nd fleet.
LBH
They will likely become my 2nd fleet.
LBH
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
and chaseing B5 Ambassodors to a Jump Gate
Nightmares about Minbari
Mongoose
Yeah, but they were on a whitestar, and nobody can catch them.
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
i mean G'kar
Nightmares about Minbari
Mongoose
Oh, go away, I'm watching West wing not Bab5 this evening
I am surprised at the bad dogfight rating as we see three Frazi fleeing in the face of three shadow fighters, and when the two flip back to fight they both die hideously. (Well one does get to ram I guess.)
Vorlon fluff talks about fighting out of instinct rather than with strategy, which comes across strangly given they are the lords of order here, but also as hectic with darting involved. Just does not fit the look of how the ships move on the table top.
Anyone know if the Vorlon fighters got any tougher in Arm.? Or did the fighters stay the same and everything else went up?
Ripple
Vorlon fluff talks about fighting out of instinct rather than with strategy, which comes across strangly given they are the lords of order here, but also as hectic with darting involved. Just does not fit the look of how the ships move on the table top.
Anyone know if the Vorlon fighters got any tougher in Arm.? Or did the fighters stay the same and everything else went up?
Ripple
