Eternal Champion Campaign: Using all MRQ settings

[Loz]

My money would be on Elric. At least if he as Strombringer. He has killed Lords of Chaos with that thing. Especially in MRQ. Elric attacks, and should manage to at least nick Slaine, Strombringer starts sucking down Slaine7s soul, and gives Elric the Stength and Endurance to be able to withstand Slaine's counter attack.

If Elric even grazes Slaine with Stormbringer, Slaine's soul is on its way to limbo. And, depending on Slaine's POW, a nick might be enough to do the job completely.... :twisted:

 

[atgxtg]

That is not quite accurate. An example of a Duchess of Law gone bad is Lady Miggea (The Dreamthief's Daughter) who tries to conquer Tanelorn. It doesn't require much imagination to suppose that some Lords of Law are more militant or less patient than their fellow lords, and quite happy to usurp power in order to enforce their personal views of what should be done, even if that requires the crushing of their obviously less flexible and stagnant brothers.

Duchess of Law, oh, I forgot that. Haven't read that book in years. If there is some sort of conflict among the Lord of Law, it would allow me to try something I've been contemplating--Mixing the EC multiver with an Amber setting. The Lord of Chaos would would be Courts of CHaos (easy match there), and the Lords of Law would be the Amberites. THe two mythos do seem to be very compatable.

Nice idea! Allow the characters to kill of the major gods one by one, whilst being hunted by all the initiates, priests and rune lords of the cults who's rune magic is suddenly cut off...

<PC>"But we've come to save you from the manipulations of the Lords of the Higher Worlds!"

<NPC>"You bastards, what happened to my Bless Crops spell? My family and clan are starving to death without it!!!"

<Death Rune chuckling evilly>"Death is the only truth. Everything belongs to me..."

Once the original Death rune is free then no pantheon will rest whilst it remains in the hands of a mortal, thus setting in process the paths to their own destruction.

The Black Sword and Humakt's sword of Death do seem to match of rather nicely with each other. Both have been used to kill gods, and have disrupted the entire order of the respective settings.

Glorantha could be a world like Hawmoon's Earth, where the Lords of Law and Chaos are underplayed, rather than in Elric's Young Kingdoms, where it eventally takes center stage.

What might be worth looking at are some of the defunct cultures in the EC setting, like the Dharzi, Mryhrryn, or Serpitz people. Perhaps something could be done to equalte one of them to a Gloranthan culture. Then we could fit Glorantha into the EC cylce by having the remants of one culture become the other.

On the plus side, most of the oddities, variant gods, races, and such and such from the EC cycle are only loosely defined, making them easier to find Gloranthan counterparts.

I'd love to link the Adryami to the Eldren (who eventually become the Melniboneans). It fits linguistically, but it is hard to do as Adyrymi are plants.

 

[Loz]

I'd love to link the Adryami to the Eldren (who eventually become the Melniboneans). It fits linguistically, but it is hard to do as Adyrymi are plants.

Again, I'm not sure the Eldren and Melniboneans can be considered the same people. They're certainly a similar race, as are the Vadragh from Corum, but I don't see the Eldren as clear forerunners of Melniboneans.

Linking the Aldryami to either would be a great coup though!

 

[atgxtg]

Again, I'm not sure the Eldren and Melniboneans can be considered the same people. They're certainly a similar race, as are the Vadragh from Corum, but I don't see the Eldren as clear forerunners of Melniboneans.

Moorcock does that in one of his stories, I think it is in The Dragon in the Sword. THe "Ghost Women" of that book are noted as being Eldren, and the ending gives away that these Eldren are the ancestors to the Melniboneans.


Thre big problem with creating an Aldyrmi link would be the living plant thing. That is, assuming that we use old style Aldyrmi, as opposed to the "tree folk" we see in MRQ.

I don7t think there are any "half elves" in Glorantha, and Melniboneans and Humans can crossbreed (the offpring are sterile).

So to make an Aldyrami-Eldren link we would need some sort of event that turns Elves from plants to animals. Perhaps through a HeroQuest gone horribly wrong (say using the Black Sword to kill Adryra in Godtime, or somehow changing the Adyramic's runic associations from Plant to Man) or the work of the Lords of Chaos. Or perhaps through a runic association (if elves can become dragonewts through rune intergration in MRQ, why not sonme near human species?)

I wonder if we could link Melnionean Dreamquesting with Gloranthan Hero Questing?


Come to think of it, Stormbringer is a Rune Sword. Maybe it absorbed/intergrated runes in a Glorantha sense.

 

[Krimson]

There is indication that the Eldren were the forerunners to the Melnibonéans in Dragon in the Sword. Though in that story the Dragon Sword fragments were speculated to be reforged into Stormbringer and Mournblade. This is somewhat contradicted in the Skrayling Tree. Of course, the Granbretan Elric travelled in White Wolf's Son was an alternate to the one in the Hawkmoon Cycle, as I recall Bastable didn't nuke London in the latter.

The thing with Moorcock's writing is that what's true in one set of realities doesn't always happen in the others. So say in the case of Una Persson or Oswald Bastable in the League of Temporal Adventurer's, they end up going to realities where the Balance is offset somehow. So its entirely possible to go to the same world and have it not be the same world. But that shouldn't matter for an Eternal Champion or other sort of Eternal.

 

[Loz]

Moorcock does that in one of his stories, I think it is in The Dragon in the Sword. THe "Ghost Women" of that book are noted as being Eldren, and the ending gives away that these Eldren are the ancestors to the Melniboneans.

Oooh - yonks since I read 'Dragon in the Sword'. I'll have to go back and look at that. Well spotted that man!

 

[toothill man]

slaine has killed gods before and I still fancy his chances as the swords suck would need to remove the earth power and by that time we have albino jam 8) ,also as noted in the comics slaine is related by blood to the beast lords and as such dosent really have much of a soul and that belongs to the goddess so nothing their to suck so more albino jam 8) 8)

 

[toothill man]

will be very intreasted when the stats come out as I seem to stand alone in beliving slaine will win