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[rust]

Even Joss took some elements of Traveller to create Firefly.

He took elements which are a part of many, many science fiction, space
opera and space fantasy universes, and connected them with plots which
are more pulp and western than science fiction.

For example, a free trader captain who shot a marshal in cold blood can
continue to operate in the same region in a kind of fantasy or western
setting, but in the average Third Imperium setting his murder of an Im-
perial Marshal would force him out of the region or out of business very
soon - his trading days in that system would definitely be over.

 

[DFW]

- his trading days in that system would definitely be over.

Actually, his trading days in the entire 3I would be over...

 

[hdan]

Surely you jest?

No. The FF "universe" is fantasy based. Not remotely science based. You're confusing throwing tech into a script with actual Science Fiction.

Science Fantasy show vs. Science Fiction game setting (with many Science Fantasy trappings).

I guess I'm a lot more forgiving of visual media having to throw out reality to accommodate story telling than you are. I'll put up with a lot of nonsense in a TV show or movie that I wouldn't in a game or novel.

(Though I always get annoyed at shows where someone goes straight up and gets "trapped in orbit" or has to "burn through the re-entry barrier" when they're falling down from "outer space", so I feel some of your pain. You'd think that one can hardly leave the atmosphere without colliding with Mars from some shows.... I was once actually laughed at in a meeting for suggesting that the intro movie to an SF shooter I was working on should have the planet rotate away from the camera so that it at least LOOKED like the landing ships were de-orbiting as they burned towards the ground. Apparently, that "artistically" looks like they're running away, not attacking. Whatever.)

 

[DFW]

I guess I'm a lot more forgiving of visual media having to throw out reality to accommodate story telling than you are.

Has nothing to do with that. He created a fantasy setting because that's what he wanted. Had ZIP, Nada, nothing to do with accommodating story telling.

Unless, you mean because he wanted to tell a fantasy story? But, that would be a redundant explanation.

 

[zero]

This sounds suspiciously like Lexx ...

Lexx is awesome, it may be soft scifi but is actually a good spring for inspiration, especially I find, the second series set in the planets-of-week of the Light Zone. Its a series made of win if you can imagine the bits inbetween episodes are the bits spent in Jump-space or w/e.

It kinda jumped the shark for me (and quite a few others apparently) when they did the format change of series 3, setting it all around the same planets, a ditching of the plot-of-the-week and some other things. But some stuff was pretty cool, like Vlad in series 4, serious evil MILF :lol:

The final episode was amazing, it was a shame there were so many duff episodes to get to it though.

 

[rust]

Lexx is awesome ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MESbr6VNpa4 :wink:

On the one hand I found much of Lexx too bizarre for my science fiction
taste, sometimes bordering on ridiculous. On the other hand I loved it
because it avoided that prudish sterility of Star Trek or Star Wars, the
characters of Lexx seemed far more human than their counterparts from
the other series.

 

[zero]

^ This is awesome, I always wanted to know just what that song meant in English.
I agree exactly with your opinion on Lexx, but when I was 13ish when I first watched it, it was f'ing awesome to me! :lol:

I still know that Brunnen-G song and end up humming it sometimes, it's been the ultimate ear-worm for me, I'm going to end up using it as a lullaby when I have kids! :lol: