Deluxe full colour Traveller main rule book
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TrippyHippy
Emperor Mongoose
RQ2 isn't faux-leather by the way. It's real leather apparently.
We have actually been giving somethought to deluxe Traveller books - not glossy, full colour (which I never thought really matched the core Traveller feel - it works for some of the settings), but big compilations.
For example, the Deluxe Traveller Player's Guide might have the core rules, and the career sections of all the core books in one book. The Referee's version would have some core rules, plus bits and bobs from the core books that the players use less often.
Just something we are thinking about - won't appear this year.
For example, the Deluxe Traveller Player's Guide might have the core rules, and the career sections of all the core books in one book. The Referee's version would have some core rules, plus bits and bobs from the core books that the players use less often.
Just something we are thinking about - won't appear this year.
TrippyHippy
Emperor Mongoose
...just don't forget the leather, as I might say to a courtesan......probably. :wink:
msprange said:
That sounds really interesting and I think it would sell well. However, do it only after you feel you've exhausted all the bells and whistles via separate publications. e.g., if you produced a Player's book with all the character career options collated under one cover and then published yet another character career in a separate book, people would feel peeved their deluxe edition now wasn't complete. In any case, it would be nice to finally draw a line under the character careers, otherwise it's going to end up like 4e D&D. :roll: For GM stuff and things like equipment, the above concept is probably not so important.
alex_greene
Guest
Judge Dredd is a story that happens to be illustrated rather than verbal.rust said:
Duck Tales is a cartoon.
To say otherwise would be like putting Traveller in the same category of games as I Spy.
Travellingdave
Banded Mongoose
I'll agree that a hi-gloss corebook isn't my cup of tea but ....
I'd LOVE to see an art book for the Third Imperium done with the resources of Rebellion. Full color or not, a set of imaginative, professional images that help codify the look and feel of the OTU in terms of technology, uniforms and cultures would be awesome to me. The Vargr and Aslan book covers give a hint of how this might look. I also get the impression that the Traveller ad appearing in recent Signs and Portents features a Darrian. Give me a book of that sort of stuff that I can show my players as reference, and I'll be all purring and content.
I'd LOVE to see an art book for the Third Imperium done with the resources of Rebellion. Full color or not, a set of imaginative, professional images that help codify the look and feel of the OTU in terms of technology, uniforms and cultures would be awesome to me. The Vargr and Aslan book covers give a hint of how this might look. I also get the impression that the Traveller ad appearing in recent Signs and Portents features a Darrian. Give me a book of that sort of stuff that I can show my players as reference, and I'll be all purring and content.
Annic Nova
Mongoose
If you are going to do artwork for the 3I, then make damn sure you capture the feel that has been living and breathing for 30+ years.
The current Cartoon art is not it, and it turns me off.
Sci fi, and 3I, in my opinion should have a very hard science look, with lots of detail, not color cartoons or cheap art sketches....
Traveller has always been Detail.....keep the art that way too.
I loved the art in the Megatraveller and DGP products.
If you could capture the style that DGP used, it would be a huge WIN....and I would spend a lot more on Mongoose books....as it is...not so much.
The current Cartoon art is not it, and it turns me off.
Sci fi, and 3I, in my opinion should have a very hard science look, with lots of detail, not color cartoons or cheap art sketches....
Traveller has always been Detail.....keep the art that way too.
I loved the art in the Megatraveller and DGP products.
If you could capture the style that DGP used, it would be a huge WIN....and I would spend a lot more on Mongoose books....as it is...not so much.
The type of deluxe core book Mr. Sprange mentions above, I would find very appealing and would likely purchase, however to me, gaming books fall into the realm of technical manuals, textbooks and other reference materials. . . grayscale, non-glossy paper is fine most of the time, color would have to have a real good reason to be included.
Shoot, I'd be fine with game books being released in spiral bound format, but I know I'm probably in the minority on that one
Shoot, I'd be fine with game books being released in spiral bound format, but I know I'm probably in the minority on that one
I'm not surprised that most people are not interested in a "collector's edition", most people are not collectors.
So such a book would definitely not be for the masses, its for the few who actually "collect". I am not a collector, but I have still bought a few of the "collector" books over the years, whether B/W or Full Color, the recent Paranoia Black Book being my most recent example.
I am sure if Mongoose did decide to do such a book they would see sales comparable to the sales of the Black book, even if they have to charge $100 (US) to do it.
But it sounds like Mongoose has a very different idea, and one that I like the sound of, and that one isn't going to be cheap either, considering the price of the current rule book.
So such a book would definitely not be for the masses, its for the few who actually "collect". I am not a collector, but I have still bought a few of the "collector" books over the years, whether B/W or Full Color, the recent Paranoia Black Book being my most recent example.
I am sure if Mongoose did decide to do such a book they would see sales comparable to the sales of the Black book, even if they have to charge $100 (US) to do it.
But it sounds like Mongoose has a very different idea, and one that I like the sound of, and that one isn't going to be cheap either, considering the price of the current rule book.
I'd like it for a core rulebook - IF the spiral/pages were high qualityAndrewW said:Malakor said:Shoot, I'd be fine with game books being released in spiral bound format, but I know I'm probably in the minority on that one
Spiral would be nice actually, easy to lay flat when referencing.
I'd like to see a full color book with spiffy art, but that's because I didn't grow up with Traveller and have no ties to it's original genre. I don't care for the 70s style sci-fi line art that much. I'm not willing to spend more than $50 for a full color bk though. All of the Catalyst Game Labs core books are color books that are phenomenal in quality, full color, tons of art and still <=$50.
I also like the concept of a deluxe character building book with the character options in one resource once the sub books were all finished.
I also like the concept of a deluxe character building book with the character options in one resource once the sub books were all finished.
Devilmountain
Mongoose
Im hearing a lot of talk about art quality and color in a hypothetical deluxe edition. One should remember that the cost of printing in color is not the only increase in cost for these books. Art costs money, lots of money. As an artist myself, I charge a lot more for full color illustrations than I do for line art. And a high quality, successful artist (a group of which I don't necessarily belong to) is going to charge even more, even for just black and white stuff.
That being said, I don't find the art that offsetting in the books. It's not the greatest by any shakes, but there are some pieces that to me really convey the setting (alien drawings excluded).
I'd buy a reprint in a second if the rules were laid out in a complete, error free and understandable way. Don't get me wrong, I still really enjoy Mongoose's publication, but the level of head banging I've risen to when trying to comprehend some of these rules is just ridiculous.
So in short, fix what should be fixed first, worry about art later. Also, a leather cover for a space exploration game? Doesn't fit thematically IMHO.
That being said, I don't find the art that offsetting in the books. It's not the greatest by any shakes, but there are some pieces that to me really convey the setting (alien drawings excluded).
I'd buy a reprint in a second if the rules were laid out in a complete, error free and understandable way. Don't get me wrong, I still really enjoy Mongoose's publication, but the level of head banging I've risen to when trying to comprehend some of these rules is just ridiculous.
So in short, fix what should be fixed first, worry about art later. Also, a leather cover for a space exploration game? Doesn't fit thematically IMHO.
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