Darrians Core Rulebook Ship Schematics

[phavoc]

Has anyone noticed the discrepancies in the ship schematics for Darrian sourcebook?

For example, on pg 94, for the Ldil class passenger liner, the staterooms are 1DT in size. There's also 2 staterooms missing on the layout (two blocks of 16 staterooms, and 1 block of 22 staterooms). The ships library is listed as 4tons, but occupies 11DT.

On page 103, the SDB has 10 'bunk areas' i guess, surrounding a common room. There is a common area, and a galley listed, which gives about 36DT (for the 40 on the design sheet)

Other ships show the standard 3DT floorplan, a few 'squeeze' in the deckspace (with a couple that miss the standard)

So... the SDB I could be ok with, and the 'squeezing in' on some of the other designs too, since that all falls within the +/- 20% rule of thumb.

But the liner is a pretty egregious and VERY bad design. The description says the ship is 'noted for the cabin layout which maximiezes the communal areas'. And it does. At least on paper. But who wants to open their cabin door into the communal area? I'm pretty sure that you would not be able to charge high passage on a ship that offers you a cabin 1.5m wide and 3m deep.

 

[DFW]

H I'm pretty sure that you would not be able to charge high passage on a ship that offers you a cabin 1.5m wide and 3m deep.

Droyne staterooms? :lol:

 

[Egil Skallagrimsson]

But the liner is a pretty egregious and VERY bad design. The description says the ship is 'noted for the cabin layout which maximiezes the communal areas'. And it does. At least on paper. But who wants to open their cabin door into the communal area? I'm pretty sure that you would not be able to charge high passage on a ship that offers you a cabin 1.5m wide and 3m deep.

Don't think that the Darrians are very big on "high passage", goes against their sense of community and shared experience, as well as their egalitarian society.

So, "who wants to open their cabin door into the communal area?" That'll be the Darrians.

Egil

 

[hdan]

Don't think that the Darrians are very big on "high passage", goes against their sense of community and shared experience, as well as their egalitarian society.

My opinion is the same as Egil's - it looks like Darrians just don't do the "private luxury stateroom" thing. Like Vargr, they prefer to have their luxury out in the common areas, and reserve staterooms to hold your stuff and your bunk.

 

[zero]

I think with the Library taking up 11dtons (that would be 22 squares on the deckplan? Is that right?) may be having common area squares given to it.

I generally do the thing of having the 4dton staterooms take up 4 squares (2dtons), then have 1 dton (2 squares) put to Life support/entertainment space, then the remaining 1dton (last 2 squares) goes to corridor squares outside or general squares for spacing purposes.

A 1dton stateroom could just have the extra dton going to the communal area that is unstatted.
I agree it is small though and I guess you'd have to have communal freshers (yay - appealing! :roll: ) as the room would hold the bunk (I get a roomy and share a bathroom with 75 other people? awesome! :roll: ) and your locker for your stuff.

 

[phavoc]

I'm all for accomodating variations in the rules. THAT makes sense. But to me I think its just more poor quality control.

If Darrians only need an extremely tiny sleep area, that's ok... but lets make the rule, eh? Staterooms have always taken up 4DT, with 3DT for the room itself. SOME of the ships in the book conform to that rule. The passenger liner does not. Hell, it doesn't even conform to the rule that has staterooms only being 2DT, with the other 2DT being for corridors and the like.

As for the library... having it set at 4DT in the ship design sheet, and then showing it to be more than twice that size on the deckplan is just plain.... odd. Adding in additional stateroom tonnage makes no sense. And I hope the passengers can breathe vacuum, as there are no escape pods or small craft.

"Attention passengers. The hull has been breached and while we opted to provide you with a very large library we neglected to install any escape pods or sub-craft. Please proceed to the nearest airlock and jump out and save yourself a slow death by suffocation. And thank you for flying Darrian Spaceways!"

It just bugs me that Mongoose has known that their ship deckplans have been effed up since the release of the Core book. And I think, to date, that EVERY other book has made the same stupid mistakes that should be caught by somebody! At least I hope they actually proof the work. I have my doubts....

I think DFW is most correct... the ship must have been designed for Droyne...or maybe its actually a midget-transport ship. I suppose somewhere on board they could stow a few clown cars for planetary transport...