Comparing Imperial Nobility with medieval/fantasy Nobility

[Tom Kalbfus]

Feudalism is a method of governance, with reciprocal perquisites, responsibilities and duties. Like jus primae noctis.

Generally, if the serf could hop it to a chartered town, and live there for a year and a day, he becomes a freeman.

Are there any places in the Third Imperium like this?

 

[Reynard]

With the HUGE mix of governments and law levels throughout the Imperium, yes.

 

[dragoner]

Life on Mora would probably make feudal society seem like the Shire.

 

[Condottiere]

Probably the reason for that influx of stowaways onboard your Fat Trader.

 

[Reynard]

Suddenly I picture interstellar illegal immigrants packed in a spacefaring van sneaking across the 100D border.

 

[Condottiere]

Fast drug would be in demand.

 

[Rick]

One really good thing about a discussion like this is the implication for Traveller government types. Just from our history, we've come up with several different examples of a broadly 'feudal' type government - Anne McCaffrey's Pern could be considered another feudal type or even a technological feudal type (with whatever remained of technology in the hands of Craft Guilds).
Perhaps a book outlining different variations on the themes in the UWP of the rules should be considered - sort of a '76 governments' idea?

 

[Rick]

One really good thing about a discussion like this is the implication for Traveller government types. Just from our history, we've come up with several different examples of a broadly 'feudal' type government - Anne McCaffrey's Pern could be considered another feudal type or even a technological feudal type (with whatever remained of technology in the hands of Craft Guilds).
Perhaps a book outlining different variations on the themes in the UWP of the rules should be considered - sort of a '76 governments' idea?

 

[Tom Kalbfus]

Life on Mora would probably make feudal society seem like the Shire.

What if there was a planet called "Shire" full of 3-foot tall humans?

 

[dragoner]

Life on Mora would probably make feudal society seem like the Shire.

What if there was a planet called "Shire" full of 3-foot tall humans?

I say we nuke the place from orbit, just to be sure.

 

[dragoner]

One really good thing about a discussion like this is the implication for Traveller government types. Just from our history, we've come up with several different examples of a broadly 'feudal' type government - Anne McCaffrey's Pern could be considered another feudal type or even a technological feudal type (with whatever remained of technology in the hands of Craft Guilds).
Perhaps a book outlining different variations on the themes in the UWP of the rules should be considered - sort of a '76 governments' idea?

There are 101 Governments (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/121553/101-Governments?filters=0_0_10134_0_0) and Powers and Principalities (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/125503/Supplement-15-Powers-and-Principalities?cPath=161_4511) are like that?

 

[Condottiere]

With credit card debt and student loans, who says the age of feudalism has passed?

 

[Reynard]

The very wealthy at the top and the rest subservient to them for everything. Courts and political bodies dedicated to the elite. Call modern government anything you want but it stinks of feudalism. Makes it easier to see it in Traveller as not uncommon.

Dragoner: They already have a structural culture based on the bunker.

 

[dragoner]

Whoa! They do.

 

[Condottiere]

In an aperture in the planetoid there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, atmospheric leaky hole, filled with the discarded machinery and an oily smell, nor yet a dry, bare, clinically sterile hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-aperture, and that means comfort.

 

[Reynard]

Help me but I now want space hobbits! Their restaurants always feature Second Breakfasts.

 

[dragoner]

Nukes, definitely, bunker busters even.

 

[Condottiere]

They have a stealth system that makes them invisible. Also, acts as an anagathic drug.

 

[Jame Rowe]

He was an officer in the US Army, and many officers of equivalent rank in the British Army were nobles, I don't see much difference between Custer and them other than they have their nobility bestowed on them by a monarch, or had inherited it from their parents. I'd have to say, Custer acted more Nobly than many actual Nobles, You see Custer stood on his own heroic deeds and bravery and did not live off of the legacy of his parents, not that he didn't have his flaws, but cowardice wasn't one of them.

He would not have been regarded as an equal by the noble-officers. Many of them would have scoffed at him for NOT being a noble. So yes, there is a difference.

I am sure Custer would scoff at them right back and challenge them to a duel! You see Custer was not British and doesn't care about the British system of Nobility and what they think of him, as far as he is concerned it is all about bravery and performance in battle.

Congratulations, you have completely missed my point. But I remember you from COTI and this does not surprise me.

 

[Tom Kalbfus]

He would not have been regarded as an equal by the noble-officers. Many of them would have scoffed at him for NOT being a noble. So yes, there is a difference.

I am sure Custer would scoff at them right back and challenge them to a duel! You see Custer was not British and doesn't care about the British system of Nobility and what they think of him, as far as he is concerned it is all about bravery and performance in battle.

Congratulations, you have completely missed my point. But I remember you from COTI and this does not surprise me.

Whether one is a noble or not depends on what culture one is living in. The United States doesn't have a system of Nobility, instead the way one presents oneself determines whether one is considered noble or not, it is not a matter of birth but behavior.