Cimmerian Titans

[Supplement Four]

I've been looking in the books, and I don't see much on the Titans--those that Crom defeated and replaced as the Cimmerian god.

Is there anything more on this on a web site someplace that you know of?

 

[kintire]

I have never heard of any such thing before. Your best bet is probably to identify them with Ymir and his children.

 

[VincentDarlage]

You've stumped me on this one. Where did you hear anything about Crom vs. Titans?

 

[Supplement Four]

You've stumped me on this one. Where did you hear anything about Crom vs. Titans?

It's in Bryan Steele's book, Cities of Hyboria, pg. 86.

 

[VincentDarlage]

You'll have to ask him, then. He made them up. That's not based on anything Howard wrote about the Hyborian age so far as I remember.

Titans seem like they belong more to Argossian or Corinthian mythologies. I would think a Cimmerian myth would involve giants, not Titans.

 

[LucaCherstich]

I think Titans (or Giants?) fighting vs Crom were mentioned at the beginning of the J. Milius' film (Conan's father speech).

 

[VincentDarlage]

The movie (and the novelization) referenced giants, not Titans.

 

[LucaCherstich]

I was wrong about Conan's father speech.
But Titans are certainly mentioned in John Milius film.
Check this:

The Wizard: "The mounds have been here since the time of the Titans. Kings buried in them... great kings... domains once glittered like the light on a windy sea. Fire won't burn there... no fire at all. That's why I live down here in the wind."

QUote n.21 in http://www.mooviees.com/616/quotes


In any case, I think "Giants" and "Titans" are often confused by many people.
And I do not think it is very important to find any meaningful difference.
It is just that "Titan" sounds more epic than "Giant".
In the ancient Greek Mythology Titans and Giants are slightly different, but both are kinds of different Gods or enemies of the Gods, at least according to Hesiod.
Other ancient Greek writers are not so accurate in making such a division.
The Germanic and Viking "Jotun" are often called "Giants".
But regarding the Giants and Titans of the Hyborian Age, I think one can use the name he prefers.
And in any case, it is still something out of REH canon.

 

[Supplement Four]

Yeah, I remember them now being mentioned in the first Conan film.

Maybe they are something Oliver Stone wrote, and Bryan Steele took it from that source.

Or...maybe they're the Atlantean take on giants, using the word Titans instead of Giants.

 

[VincentDarlage]

*shrug* The word "Titan" conveys something more specific to me than just giant, and I would hardly consider the movie canonical, but I still don't know anything helpful about the original question. Even if you consider Titans to be canonical, I still am unsure about the whole Crom vs. Titans as being canonical, the latter of which I definitely don't see as canon.

Still, to me (as an author), word-choice is important. That would be like writing a story set in Africa, and putting jaguars there - because a jaguar just a generic word meaning a large predatory cat that lives in jungles, right? Maybe we could shoot the jaguar with our shotgun and tell the story, but call the shotgun a rifle - because we all know that a rifle is a generic term for a long, two-handed gun with a stock, and not a specific type of gun.

Anyway, that is neither here nor there. I don't know anything about Crom vs. the Titans, but if you want to know about Crom vs. the Giants, watch the first few minutes of "Conan the Barbarian."

Maybe he is referring to the Giant-Kings (first mentioned in "The God in the Bowl" IIRC), but I don't know that they fought Crom.