Campaign to fix the Warlock!

[sidewinder]

I dont know when they first build the shadow hunter but in the the unaired episodes of crusade gideon finds where earth force was building them, and still at it. Galen destroyed the place but the guy running it said there were a lot more hidden facilities like that one.

 

[Lord David the Denied]

Not to me they don't. At +2 Starfuries can overwhelm anything else with numbers easily and still have plenty of flights left to butt-rape the enemy's ships. Show me another fleet with the ability to keep their fighters away. EA has not only the most fighters, but they're some of the best, and they have solid anti-fighter weapons on most ships. It's too much.

 

[fluffy05]

Not to me they don't. At +2 Starfuries can overwhelm anything else with numbers easily and still have plenty of flights left to butt-rape the enemy's ships. Show me another fleet with the ability to keep their fighters away. EA has not only the most fighters, but they're some of the best, and they have solid anti-fighter weapons on most ships. It's too much.

That is one strength of EA but most players never max on on fighters where I play. I use fighters to help stop or slow enemy fighters to allow my capital ships to do what they are there to do. Kill the Enemy :twisted:

 

[WickedE]

Starfuries suck en masse. Nothing like having EIGHTEEN FLIGHTS OF STARFURIES on one ship. SUCKAGE.

 

[fluffy05]

Starfuries suck en masse. Nothing like having EIGHTEEN FLIGHTS OF STARFURIES on one ship. SUCKAGE.

Don't they have to be in base to base?

 

[Locutus9956]

Not to attack capital ships....

And furies are fine, and really it just sounds rather lame LDtD that you seem to complain every time ANYONE has anything that can match or (god forbid!) BETTER the centauri in capabilities. The EA fighters are just about right at the moment, yes theyre good but if you think for a minute that even a full carrier load of TBolts is a match for just about ANY other war level target I highly suggest you try actually PLAYING that game and not just looking at the stats and going 'OMG unfair'.

But irrespective of all this, this has very little do with the POINT of this thread ie. THE WARLOCK!!!!

If you want to argue about the Starfury make another thread about it dont derail one that was supposed to get mongooses attention (one way or the other).

And yes Im being grumpy but I've got flu or something (damned Drakh and their plagues...) and it doesnt take much to put me over the edge from 'bad mood' to 'ranting lunatic' at the moment

 

[Tank]

Maybe your pregnant, that often accounts for mood swings :lol: :lol:

 

[captainsmirk]

I dont know when they first build the shadow hunter but in the the unaired episodes of crusade gideon finds where earth force was building them, and still at it. Galen destroyed the place but the guy running it said there were a lot more hidden facilities like that one.

Well the Hunter or EA/Shadow Hybrid or whatever is shown destroying the Omega Gideon was serving on at around the time the Technomages were leaving the galaxy (because Galen turned around to save him). The Technomages left towards the beginning of the Shadow war.

But yes the ship was supposed to have been an EA ship based on shadow-tech. However I don't think the EA is capable of building a fully Shadow-tech ship yet. I think is described in that episode script as still basically being a metal frame with Shadow-tech skin stretched over it like a shadow-omega. Although in that case I guess they could probably build more than one, it just never seemed like there was more than one of them in the show.

Nick

 

[Calistan]

I think we should make a trade. I think the Poseidon should be pushed into the Armageddon Level and be given the feared weaponry and stats it should have and the Warlock should be pushed back to the War Level that many of us want it to be.

 

[WickedE]

Armageddon level carrier?! ARE YOU MAD?! The sheer amount of Starfuries and Thunderbolts an Armageddon Poseidon could pump out would spell the END of the UNIVERSE!

 

[Calistan]

Armageddon level carrier?! ARE YOU MAD?! The sheer amount of Starfuries and Thunderbolts an Armageddon Poseidon could pump out would spell the END of the UNIVERSE!

True, but many of us have 1 Poseidon and if it was a worth while Armageddon ship, then I would field it.

 

[fluffy05]

Back on topic:

Here is what I would like to see by way of a fix: :idea:

In 3rd Age the Warlock should appear as per SFOS - a War choice. An Early or protoype version if you like.

In the Crusade Age I would like to see the Warlock have 2 Variants:

War: As per SFOS

Armageddon: Armageddon Choice as per Armageddon - the new improved Warlock if you will.

Any Takers :?:

I think it offers a good solution for people who have purchased more than one EA Warlock but still leave the option of the Armageddon ship for the people who regulary play bigger games.

Happy Gaming :wink:

 

[Locutus9956]

Almost practical except in crusade there already is at Armageddon level a new improved Warlock. It's called the Nemesis!

Now whether or not the Nemeisis sucks mightily is another matter entirely which I won't start on here, but frankly we simply dont need an Armageddon Warlock, it should go back where it was. If you want a worthy Armageddon choice, fix the Nemesis.

ps. Armageddon level Posseidon?!?!?!?!? That's clinically insane! But if it was made actually GOOD for that level it would be quite amusing :roll:

 

[Nomad]

Arma. level Poseidon? Hull 6, an appropriate boresight beam weapon, say 8AD, SAP, DD, all-round secondary LPAs and all the Command and Fleet Carrier bonuses she already has...it's crazy, Jim, but it just might work...

 

[prelude_to_war]

Now you're talkin'!

 

[Calistan]

Arma. level Poseidon? Hull 6, an appropriate boresight beam weapon, say 8AD, SAP, DD, all-round secondary LPAs and all the Command and Fleet Carrier bonuses she already has...it's crazy, Jim, but it just might work...

Actually, instead of a boresight, I would put large numbers of missle batteries on each arc of the ship and I still think it would be nice if it had stealth because if that was going to be my C&C ship, then I would put as many jammers on it as possible.

 

[Karhedron]

Armageddon level carrier?! ARE YOU MAD?! The sheer amount of Starfuries and Thunderbolts an Armageddon Poseidon could pump out would spell the END of the UNIVERSE!

No one apart from LBH would have enough T-bolt models to actually field the thing.

 

[Celisasu]

Yessss.....bring your 60+ flights of starfuries to me. Do it!


Finally a reason to try wide burst e-mines. :lol:

 

[lastbesthope]

I only have 3 dozen flights each of Furies and T'bolts. I need about another 2 dozen flights to fill my hangars, trouble is the most cost effective way to buy fighters is a Poseidon box set which doesn't help in that regard :lol:

LBH

 

[Goldritter]

I only have 3 dozen flights each of Furies and T'bolts. I need about another 2 dozen flights to fill my hangars, trouble is the most cost effective way to buy fighters is a Poseidon box set which doesn't help in that regard :lol:

LBH

That´s the reason why god invent the paper counter .

But back to topic.
I´ve thought, that the Warlock will be pushed back to Warlevel in the new Signes & Portens. But it isn´t. (Sadly )

I hope it will be changed in the next Signes & Portens.