Campaign to fix the Warlock!

[Locutus9956]

Let your voices be heard and we CAN make a difference

The EA Warlock should never have been moved up to Armageddon level. It was a good ship where it was in SFoS and I personally thought the Tourney list version was just about perfectly hitting the nail on the head for what it should be

 

[Lorcan Nagle]

there's no real reason for it to be at Armageddeon level when the EA have the Nemesis as well. I'd much rather have a viable line War level choice

 

[Burger]

There's far worse ships to fix before the Warlock

 

[thePirv]

It's the EA's first attempt at the new tech.Leave it at War and give it the SfoS stats. This shows that it's a good ship, powerful when properly supported, but not a supership. The Nemesis can be viewed as an improvement on the design and qualify as the EA's first true success at totally succeeding with the new tech.

 

[Locutus9956]

Im not saying fix it Burger Im saying scrap the Armageddon version entirely, there was nothing wrong with it beforehand! As the old saying goes 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it!'

 

[Hans Olo]

The Warlock is definitely no Armageddon ship, but with the Armageddon stats its in my opinion to good to be a War ship too. So state it back to war with the Sfos stats.

 

[Goldritter]

I´m for the tourney stats.
The Warlock deserves the 6 AD for it´s (Boresight) main weapon.
And in comparission to other War-Level Ships 4 AD are worse than 6 AD, even if they have TD and the other "only" DD.

And it was from the beginning wrong to make the Warlock Armageddon.
Even if the EA makes a jump in Tech. Their next Generation (standart) Ships are not on par with the "standart" Ships which the Vorlons and Shadows have.

 

[LordClinto]

I'm for War with the SFOS stats!

Many more reasons to take in a fleet when it was like that!

 

[tneva82]

The Nemesis can be viewed as an improvement on the design and qualify as the EA's first true success at totally succeeding with the new tech.

Well based on the stats I would hardly call it "true success" :lol:

Anyway back to tournament list stats! 2 armageddon level ships for EA is 1 too many.

 

[Epaminondas]

In the early list EA tops out at Battle; its logical that for 3rd age they would top out at war; and then get armageddon in Crusade.

If you are keeping the warlock in the dawn of the third age list, it makes much better sense as a war then armageddon.

Heck, I'd put pretty much any two war (non EA) against the new one.

And the nemisis and the warlock as they stand are to simular in role. No reason to ever take one of each.

 

[Rynar]

Im not saying fix it Burger Im saying scrap the Armageddon version entirely, there was nothing wrong with it beforehand! As the old saying goes 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it!'

I agree completely, the SFOS Warlock was a good schip anny Captain would like to command!!!

 

[urobach81]

Please, dear MGP. the poor little warlock want back to his friends at WAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR level. :twisted:

give a shipcrushing, hullsplitting, all devestating Warmaschine a chance.....

please please please :roll:

 

[Target]

Biggest problem with armagedon lvl ships how often will you use them?
I won't buy the Adira simply because i've used my Oct twice in round 2yrs so why buy a Armagedon lvl ship. Tourney stats please for me.
It's a bit like what happened to the vorchan. Our group will use a mixture of the stats from SFOS, Tourney and Armagedon eg tourney Demos

 

[prelude_to_war]

Tourney stats at War for me as well. Does EA really need two Armageddon choices?

 

[Goldritter]

Yes.
One is enough. :x

 

[Silvereye]

Tourney stats at War for me as well. Does EA really need two Armageddon choices?

Yes they do! They've got a whole bunch of pent up anger they need to vent on the Minbari. They need to beat them somehow. Even if it is only "We have more Armageddon choices than you! Nah, nah na-nah na!"

 

[prelude_to_war]

They've got a whole bunch of pent up anger they need to vent on the Minbari. They need to beat them somehow.

If that's the case I propose a new class: Ludicrous PL. The new EA ship will be called 'Dogs & Cats Living Together' class Mass Hysteria and will have 1,000 AD of multiple weapons in all arcs and hull Super 6 (succesful hits need to reroll a 6 to hit). Or something like that.

Seriously though, I don't foresee Armageddon level being used that often and the Warlock mini should see action more often than not.

 

[JoeSmokem]

Man, you need to stop watching Spaceballs and Ghost Busters 8)

 

[Silvereye]

Why? They're great films.

Prelude@ you probably need an epilepsy warning on that link....

 

[prelude_to_war]

Ha! The point is, the Ludicrous Class will illuminate appetites for destruction and tickle yearnings for bloodlust in your opponents to the point of causing them massive convulsions - much like the Ludicrous video.