Beach assault scenarios

[Wargoat]

This summer, I have designed a special gaming table representing a beach to recreate the Normandy landings. We played about 5 games on it with special rules to represent this type of situation: coastal gun bunkers, LCVP's, LCM's and different army values. (the Pacific War was not available yet) When we wanted to play this type of battle, it was clear to us that invading forces were going to send a lot of men and vehicles to stand a chance against a fortifed and dug-in defender. I think any army commander knows that you need at least two or three times more soldiers than the defending army to capture a fortified enemy position. So we designed the scenario with this in mind: the defending army has 50% of the attackers army value to build his own force. With more restrictions on both sides: the attacker must have amphibious vehicles or landing crafts to deploy his troops and the defender must purchase an emplacement for every 500pts in his force. This crated some really nice battles and you couldn't tell wich side would win before the end.
Eventually, I bought the Pacific War book and we tried the beach assault featured at the end of the book. I was surprised to see that there was no difference in the attacker an defender army point value. But we still tried the scenario as is, even if I was almost sure of the outcome. The marines didn't even made to the jungle! This doesn't make any sense. When the USMC made this type of assault, they were outnumbering the defenders...
I'm wondering if the guys at Mongoose tried the scenario before it made it's way in this book...

 

[Agis]

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Eventually, I bought the Pacific War book and we tried the beach assault featured at the end of the book. I was surprised to see that there was no difference in the attacker an defender army point value. But we still tried the scenario as is, even if I was almost sure of the outcome. The marines didn't even made to the jungle! This doesn't make any sense. When the USMC made this type of assault, they were outnumbering the defenders...
I'm wondering if the guys at Mongoose tried the scenario before it made it's way in this book...

It was tested several times!
Did you include the mandatory emplacements for the defender?
The defender has only half the troops after all...

 

[Wargoat]

Did you include the mandatory emplacements for the defender?

Yes, but if the defender only use foxholes (25pts each) he still has a lot of points available to build his army.

The defender has only half the troops after all...

Where do you see that?

 

[Agis]

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The defender has only half the troops after all...

Where do you see that?

Heres what I sent to Mongoose, final version.
Defender’s Briefing
You have been tasked with the noble task to defend the Japanese home soil with your life. Hold this island no matter what the cost, and make the enemy pay for every inch he tries to cover while advancing towards you.

• You must include emplacements of any type in your deployment zone for half the points spent on your force.
• You may arrange the terrain in your deployment zone however you wish, and may add more terrain as you see fit.
• You deploy your entire army second and take the first turn.

I just realized that the text was changed. Sorry can't help any more...
Maybe Matt can enlighten us?

 

[Wargoat]

• You must include emplacements of any type in your deployment zone for half the points spent on your force.

This makes more sense!

Waiting for Matt's answer now...

 

[RichJones]

We tried playing it as is and found it impossible for the marines - the text may have been moved or missed from a number of the scenarios in the core book which I presume should be half forces as one side are defending etc.

Played the marine one with half forces and it works !

 

[Agis]

Played the marine one with half forces and it works !

Sounds like my test games. Maybe the "miswording" occured during editing or layout...

 

[Wargoat]

the text may have been moved or missed from a number of the scenarios in the core book which I presume should be half forces as one side are defending etc.

I agree with you. Every time we tried the Hammer and Anvil scenario, the defender won the battle. We should test this one with half forces for the defender...