bayruun said:Is stealth rolled per weapon system, or per attacker? The rules don't seem to be clear about that.
Also, my Minbari opponent claims that an Energy Mine making attacks on a ship declares its attacks on those ships, and thus can be countered by stealth.
hiffano said:bayruun said:Is stealth rolled per weapon system, or per attacker? The rules don't seem to be clear about that.
Also, my Minbari opponent claims that an Energy Mine making attacks on a ship declares its attacks on those ships, and thus can be countered by stealth.
stealth is rolled per ship, not per weapon. once a G'Quan can see a minbari with one weapon, it can see them with all, until the next turn. it;s one roll, all or nothign kind of thing before you fire.
Energy mines do not target ships, hence they do not need to pass a stealth check, they are targetted at an area of space, and hit everything in that area, stealth and dodge do not work against e-mines. nor do interceptors, what does work is geg and shields.
Ah but what about the Web Of Death? :lol:Mean Mutton said:You want to see the Minbari really upset? Try playing the Gaim against them.
Burger said:Ah but what about the Web Of Death? :lol:Mean Mutton said:You want to see the Minbari really upset? Try playing the Gaim against them.
AdrianH said:Another fun thing to do with e-mines is ruin dogfights. Your Frazis have just been bounced by Sentris. You're not allowed to fire weapons at the Sentris, but nothing stops you from putting an e-mine on a point of space which just happens to be near the dogfight.
Democratus said:AdrianH said:Another fun thing to do with e-mines is ruin dogfights. Your Frazis have just been bounced by Sentris. You're not allowed to fire weapons at the Sentris, but nothing stops you from putting an e-mine on a point of space which just happens to be near the dogfight.
This would seem to be against the rules. The Fighter rules prohibit firing into a dogfight that contains your own fighters. Unlike the standard rules which merely prohibit targeting a friendly vessel (thus allowing emines to be used against your own ships) - the figher rules state that dogfights containing friendly fighters "may not be fired upon".
Blasting figters with an emine certainly seems like "firing upon" them.
lastbesthope said:E-mines are the exeption
LBH
Democratus said:AdrianH said:Another fun thing to do with e-mines is ruin dogfights. Your Frazis have just been bounced by Sentris. You're not allowed to fire weapons at the Sentris, but nothing stops you from putting an e-mine on a point of space which just happens to be near the dogfight.
This would seem to be against the rules. The Fighter rules prohibit firing into a dogfight that contains your own fighters. Unlike the standard rules which merely prohibit targeting a friendly vessel (thus allowing emines to be used against your own ships) - the figher rules state that dogfights containing friendly fighters "may not be fired upon".
Blasting figters with an emine certainly seems like "firing upon" them.
hiffano said:Democratus said:Blasting figters with an emine certainly seems like "firing upon" them.
well, as stated, the e-mine does not fire upon anything apart from a bit of space, the fighters just have the misfortune to be in the blast. if you don't target the fighter, you are not firing upon them, nice eh
Democratus said:hiffano said:Democratus said:Blasting figters with an emine certainly seems like "firing upon" them.
well, as stated, the e-mine does not fire upon anything apart from a bit of space, the fighters just have the misfortune to be in the blast. if you don't target the fighter, you are not firing upon them, nice eh
You may not be targeting the fighters with an e-mine. But you certainly are firing upon them. As stated in Powers & Principalities - hitting a vessel with the blast of an e-mine "will count as a successful attack." (page 6).
Mean Mutton said:Democratus said:hiffano said:well, as stated, the e-mine does not fire upon anything apart from a bit of space, the fighters just have the misfortune to be in the blast. if you don't target the fighter, you are not firing upon them, nice eh
You may not be targeting the fighters with an e-mine. But you certainly are firing upon them. As stated in Powers & Principalities - hitting a vessel with the blast of an e-mine "will count as a successful attack." (page 6).
That statement is only in reference to stealth.