ACTA: Drakh Mothership/Carrier
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Locutus9956
Mongoose
I would guess no to the first question since theyre not ships chose for your fleet roster as such but effectively 'part' of the single ship. But I'm sure Matt will be along with an official answere soon enough 
in the recent vassal tourney i ruled that ships carried did count towards the total allowed, otherwise you can effectively bypass the max fleet ruling and still swarm knowing you will have the init advantage.
think of a 5pt raid for example like the upcoming mongoose tourney where you are only allowed 8 ships.
if the carried raiders dont count then effectively you could put down 2 carriers and 4 scouts and end up with 14 ships on the table, which when theres a fleet size limit this is an unfair advantage.
think of a 5pt raid for example like the upcoming mongoose tourney where you are only allowed 8 ships.
if the carried raiders dont count then effectively you could put down 2 carriers and 4 scouts and end up with 14 ships on the table, which when theres a fleet size limit this is an unfair advantage.
Sulfurdown
Mongoose
(So do fighters count toward ship totals? Just to be devil's advocate.)katadder said:
dennisharlien
Mongoose
Bump, hey Matt can we get an official word on this. Katadder makes a good point but then that does take away the only "special rule" of the Drakh, and seing as they have no fighters.
Tournements are where its important
Tournements are where its important
its not the only special rule of the drakh, you can still bring a carrier +4, then 3 raid ships. plus the 3 fleets that get 2fers could say they are being discriminated against and want to bring 8 2fers producing 16 ships (although that wouldnt be 5 raid points anyway).
Sulfurdown
Mongoose
It's been decided that you can add them to your roster IF they were launched and survived.
As for if they were still unlaunched from the mothership, they would be destroyed with the mothership.
As for if they were still unlaunched from the mothership, they would be destroyed with the mothership.
Sulfurdown said:
Sorry but I would like tho get an truly official answer on that, because that would make Drake redicously strong in a campaign.
They are already getting ships (ships not aux crafts) for free, what makes their fleets always at least 1/2 point larger as your own.
That's what I would call an unfair advantage!
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Hans Olo said:
No. A carrier can replenish fighters in a campaign. The Drakh cannot replenish raiders and other carried craft. However if the carrier or mothership is sent back to the homeworld for repairs, any previously destroyed raiders and carried ships will bge replaced.
Greg Smith said:
Yes alright.
But is there how is it handled in 2 end ed if you lose a carrier and the Raiders survive, are they added to your campaign rooster or are they lost because the carrier is lost (assuming that there is no free space an other carriers of the fleet)
If I have understood this right it is not possible to unload fighters to add them as patrol choices to your fleet rooster and send the Ship with the carrier trait back to high command to get new fighters because their hangars are empty now.
That's also not possible with Drakh right?
But my main question is do Drakh keep their Raiders from a carrier that is destroyed in a campaign battle add the surviving Raiders to the Fleet rooster as skirmish choices(what means giving the Drakh actually free ships), or are the Raiders lost if there is no free space on other carriers? (What means loosing all Raiders left after placing them on other carriers as long as there are any slots in the hangars left)
Is there any official statement about that for 2 end ED purpose?
Or is the 1st ED statement still valid and will not be changed?
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Hans Olo said:
You can add them to your fleet roster.
It is not possible to do that. It is possible to use your carrier's fighters to replace destroyed flights from another ship and then send the carrier back to command.
It is possible to use fighters as a patrol level choice in a battle that the carrier isn't present for, but they return to the carrier at the end of the turn, they can't be added to your fleet roster.
Nope.
There is nothing to stop you adding them to the fleet roster. They aren't actually free, since you paid for them in the carrier.
I don't believe there has been a statement about them for 2e.
If it's so our gaming group will have to ban Drakh from Campaign games because they are overpowered.
I agree that you pay for the raiders of a carrier, but it is by far not enough.
The raiders alone are worth one Battle point, so if you pay for the Raiders you get the Carrier for free. That's not right, because sending carriers to high command will give you whole ships not aux crafts for free.
That's obvious unfair, as A Drakh fleet sending a carrier in a one Battle fight in a campaign where the carrier is lost but the Raiders survive has still one Battle point on the rooster as if nothing has happen.
And that is by all means like giving the Drakh ships for free.( At least for one pint Raid since I think a carrier alone without the Raiders would make a excellent Raid choice if not even like 1 Raid + one Skirmisch or very close to Battle)
I agree that you pay for the raiders of a carrier, but it is by far not enough.
The raiders alone are worth one Battle point, so if you pay for the Raiders you get the Carrier for free. That's not right, because sending carriers to high command will give you whole ships not aux crafts for free.
That's obvious unfair, as A Drakh fleet sending a carrier in a one Battle fight in a campaign where the carrier is lost but the Raiders survive has still one Battle point on the rooster as if nothing has happen.
And that is by all means like giving the Drakh ships for free.( At least for one pint Raid since I think a carrier alone without the Raiders would make a excellent Raid choice if not even like 1 Raid + one Skirmisch or very close to Battle)
