5 points raid idea.

lastbesthope said:
fluffy05 said:
OK as a newbie I have bought my first Mini - an EA Omega Destroyer.

What would you use to make a 5 point raid list with this ship

Omega - 2 points

If I recall correctly, I faced a 5 pt Raid fleet in the recent Armagerddon tournament sing the new Armageddon points breakdown which was:

1 Omega
2 Olympus (1 Raid point= 2 Skirmish ships)
1 Olympus, 2 Hermes ( 1Raid point = 1 Skirmish and 2 Raid points)
1 Olympus, 2 Hermes ( 1Raid point = 1 Skirmish and 2 Raid points)

Total 1 Omega, 4 Olympus, 4 Hermes.

It was Greg Smith and it was 3rd Age EA lists

LBH

you mean patrol points for those hermes, right? :wink:
 
Pauly_D said:
im surprised to see someone using the Omega Pulse varient, none of the local EA players would touch that ship. i can see it has its uses but i personally would prefer to use 2 Nova's instead of 1 Omega

I actually always take the pulse over the `basic` Omega, better side weaponry and aft, no boresight manouvring...

I feel it thies with the 2 Nova`s, armour over firepower. In the end, the 2 Nova`s are probably better, but the Omega is such a cool vessel and oh so iconic, makes it good enough in my book to put on the table :)
 
Twin-Linked Aldades said:
Pauly_D said:
im surprised to see someone using the Omega Pulse varient, none of the local EA players would touch that ship. i can see it has its uses but i personally would prefer to use 2 Nova's instead of 1 Omega

I actually always take the pulse over the `basic` Omega, better side weaponry and aft, no boresight manouvring...

I feel it thies with the 2 Nova`s, armour over firepower. In the end, the 2 Nova`s are probably better, but the Omega is such a cool vessel and oh so iconic, makes it good enough in my book to put on the table :)

yes but getting hit by 6AD Beam Double Damage (depending on which rule sets you are currently using) hurts like hell
if i play EA i use an ordinary Omega and have 2 Nova's on each side to stop anyone trying to avoid the fore arc
 
But then your already on 4 of the 5 raid points of this topic, I take the Pulse and a single nova in the 5 raid the topic starter asked.

I know well beams hurt, my regular opponents include a centauri beam lover, a Drakh and a Minbari amongst others, and the few beams I use are mostly the ones on the basic Hyperion...

Then again, I DO have a serious fetish / love / preference for massed twin linked batteries (hence the nickname in my signature, and I am really known by that name in good ol` province here :? ) so that is in favour of the pulse on a little personal subjective base
 
The one time I used a pulse Omega the range of the pulse cannons was a serious drawback. It did get in some devastating blows up close, but if your enemy stays out of range, you're in trouble. For that reason I prefer the standard version.

Chernobyl
 
the problem with the Pulse Omega, it doesnt have enough range and your biggest ship either needs range or speed, if it doesnt then it can be easily picked off at long range before it gets to fire a shot (even if that shot would decimate most the enemy fleet if it got close enough)
 
I dunno honestly, 9 out of 10 battles end up in a huge brawl over a square about 20" in size. Eevn White Stars, who dart around with their speed and agility must come within this area, and even with the massed 12" guns I usually field (twl batteries and rail guns) they will be shot at in numbers eventually. Thats why there are supports to your ship after all no, and the batteries of the Pulse will have a field day as you can`t keep running.

Oh, and I have found that the Napoleonic square, a tactic first used in 1803 works wonders with an EA fleet (not counting those high tech junkboxes of the Crusade era... I have some, I ordered Prelude`s ubercool ship, i converted a warlock / vorlon hybrid, but I guess I`ll only field this bunch if we ran a 2260+ campaign. They do make cute shelf ornaments though)
 
Twin-Linked Aldades said:
Oh, and I have found that the Napoleonic square, a tactic first used in 1803 works wonders with an EA fleet (not counting those high tech junkboxes of the Crusade era...

Never thought to use this tactic, might have to give it a try.

THanks for everyone's feedback, didn't think it would get much responce. So 5 Novas while impressive on paper (as are most things) will have some major draw backs. I'll resort to taking just the one for now, along with 2 Artemis, Hyperion, 2 Olympus, and 2 Thetys. Any spare points will be used to field Starfuries.
 
Stonehorse said:
Twin-Linked Aldades said:
Oh, and I have found that the Napoleonic square, a tactic first used in 1803 works wonders with an EA fleet (not counting those high tech junkboxes of the Crusade era...

Never thought to use this tactic, might have to give it a try.

THanks for everyone's feedback, didn't think it would get much responce. So 5 Novas while impressive on paper (as are most things) will have some major draw backs. I'll resort to taking just the one for now, along with 2 Artemis, Hyperion, 2 Olympus, and 2 Thetys. Any spare points will be used to field Starfuries.

Give us a Battle reports when you are done (with pictures :wink: )
 
Chernobyl said:
lastbesthope said:
fluffy05 said:
OK as a newbie I have bought my first Mini - an EA Omega Destroyer.

What would you use to make a 5 point raid list with this ship

Omega - 2 points

If I recall correctly, I faced a 5 pt Raid fleet in the recent Armagerddon tournament sing the new Armageddon points breakdown which was:

1 Omega
2 Olympus (1 Raid point= 2 Skirmish ships)
1 Olympus, 2 Hermes ( 1Raid point = 1 Skirmish and 2 Raid points)
1 Olympus, 2 Hermes ( 1Raid point = 1 Skirmish and 2 Raid points)

Total 1 Omega, 4 Olympus, 4 Hermes.

It was Greg Smith and it was 3rd Age EA lists

LBH

you mean patrol points for those hermes, right? :wink:

Indeed

:oops:

LBH
 
lastbesthope said:
Chernobyl said:
lastbesthope said:
If I recall correctly, I faced a 5 pt Raid fleet in the recent Armagerddon tournament sing the new Armageddon points breakdown which was:

1 Omega
2 Olympus (1 Raid point= 2 Skirmish ships)
1 Olympus, 2 Hermes ( 1Raid point = 1 Skirmish and 2 Raid points)
1 Olympus, 2 Hermes ( 1Raid point = 1 Skirmish and 2 Raid points)

Total 1 Omega, 4 Olympus, 4 Hermes.

It was Greg Smith and it was 3rd Age EA lists

LBH

you mean patrol points for those hermes, right? :wink:

Indeed

:oops:

LBH

OK now using Army builder I can give these ships Starfury flights as well

4 with the Omega, and 1 with each Hermes

How do you use the fighters?

P.S. --> I get my Revised ACTA boxed set today - fingers crossed
 
Baron EvZ said:
Would you mind defining the "Napoleonic Square?"

Soldiers used to form a box facing outwards firing Muskets/Rifles and form boxes next to each other to provide mutual support with bayonets fixed.

They did this to help prevent Calvalry from smashing them - Think Battle of Waterloo - hope this helps
 
fluffy05 said:
Baron EvZ said:
Would you mind defining the "Napoleonic Square?"

Soldiers used to form a box facing outwards firing Muskets/Rifles and form boxes next to each other to provide mutual support with bayonets fixed.

They did this to help prevent Calvalry from smashing them - Think Battle of Waterloo - hope this helps

yes but using that with EA would only work if they have to come to you, if they outrange you (and with Novas and Pulse Omegas that really isnt hard) then they can sit back and not enter your deadly range of about 80 Twin Linked Laser/Pulse Arrays
 
Even the box can move. basically, it comes down to the `front` vessel, lets assume a nova makes a 45degree turn and forms the `top`.
Two further vessels then take up the left and side, but facing front arcs together with the first vessels broadside. The rear is only closed up if your over half the table and people will pass you by due to their basic movement, probably using a come about OR by a hyperion or other 2 turns of 45 vessels. The square can then move onwards by the flank vessels forming the front and back, and the back vessels making the flanks. Continuing like this, you have a real FP block actually moving over the board and presenting lots of dice to all sides.

If going trully napoleonic, stick on or two saggi`s (NOT ten) or Olympii in the center and keep them in there with all stop if needed. You then have the `cannons` in the center and the musketeers (aka TWL batteries) forming the walls
 
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