What's wrong with this Vargr?

F33D said:
Vargrs wouldn't have tails. When they were genetically modified to be bipedal they would have been eliminated. They wouldn't be needed in the new modified form.

Tails aren't just for balance, you know...
 
Wil Mireu said:
F33D said:
Vargrs wouldn't have tails. When they were genetically modified to be bipedal they would have been eliminated. They wouldn't be needed in the new modified form.

Tails aren't just for balance, you know...

Yes. And we lost ours along the way too.
 
Vargr make pretty good sense as paddy rollers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_patrol made by the ancients to control us.
 
New World Monkeys have tail while Old World Apes (our people) don't. Apes have fur whereas we lost most of ours while living in the same environment. As a matter of fact, most mammals have fur in locales you think would not be nessessary. Apes also spend a lot of time on all fours. We humans seem to be a quirk.

If fur and a tail don't interfer with development I don't see the Ancients removing either except as yet another experiment creating a subrace. Changes to vargrs were about taking a fairly intelligent, sociable genus and giving them physical (and mental) modifications to greatly enhance that aspect. Notice, at the same time, they didn't modify their genus Homo subject anywhere near as much. Maybe they were the experimental control group.

And, really, a super intelligent race doesn't lop off appendages just to make the pants fit.
 
mr31337 said:
Worms & mange and dirty, smelly tails cos 'stuff' gets stuck in their fur since it would be difficult to raise a tail very high if you're a biped and almost impossible to use a toilet.
No, it's not at all "almost impossible to use a toilet." They'd simply design a toilet to fit their needs. The Japanese haven't used western-style toilets for very long in their history, preferring to use what's called a "squat toilet" instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JapaneseSquatToilet.jpg

I myself have used one a number of times while traveling through Japan. Very easy to use and keep tidy, especially when one is wearing local clothing like a men's kimono even at 2 in the morning. The Vargr could easily design something similar in a gravity environment and a micro-G environment would simply require a different design just like it does for humans.

And there are no toilets in the wild. What do you think backpackers do? And the militaries of the world have used slit trenches for centuries. Intelligent species adapt.
 
Reynard said:
And, really, a super intelligent race doesn't lop off appendages just to make the pants fit.

They would probably wear kilts.

The biggest issue of the old vargr were their legs, as a four footed animal, canines center of mass is forward, making their two forward limbs their main legs. T5 fixes this in it's pictures, with no more dog legs, and introduces the idea of vargr being a chimera: a mix of human and dire wolf. The obvious idea of why to do this is to make them the hunters of man.
 
dragoner said:
The biggest issue of the old vargr were their legs, as a four footed animal, canines center of mass is forward, making their two forward limbs their main legs. T5 fixes this in it's pictures, with no more dog legs, and introduces the idea of vargr being a chimera: a mix of human and dire wolf.

Post the pic. Should be interesting how they have been fixed (pun intended).
 
Behave, children... :roll:

There are realworld cases of dogs walking on two legs (though the one I'm thinking of does so because it doesn't have forelimbs and learned to walk on its hind legs - but I'd imagine it's probably possible for dogs to walk on their hindlimbs even with "arms").

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22P-H9rWIHo
 
Wil Mireu said:
There are realworld cases of dogs walking on two legs (though the one I'm thinking of does so because it doesn't have forelimbs and learned to walk on its hind legs - but I'd imagine it's probably possible for dogs to walk on their hindlimbs even with "arms").

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22P-H9rWIHo

I saw this a while ago. I can't remember where, but I think Vargr were described as having their hind legs modified by the Ancients for bipedal movement.
 
F33D said:
I saw this a while ago. I can't remember where, but I think Vargr were described as having their hind legs modified by the Ancients for bipedal movement.

And since the Ancients were digitigrade themselves, they probably knew exactly what needed doing for those modifications. They were reputedly creating servants and assistants, not just guard animals, so use of the hands would have been an important goal.
 
OH! Ok then......

From Felcher's pov neither..... Though Felcher is a descendant of the Solomani's effort to genetically engineer a more efficient zero-G work based heavily on the Terran Great Apes.

Once a groundhog always a groundhog.....
 
Neither are a flying race and both developed in significant gravity, so at the "Race" level they are going to be pretty similar. Droyne and Ael Yael are going to be better adapted than either.

Once a groundhog always a groundhog.

Got a special today on Flyspiney pups. Genuine DuFortier's Arboreal Hedgehogs. Keep your ship insect free!
 
Infojunky said:
OH! Ok then......

From Felcher's pov neither..... Though Felcher is a descendant of the Solomani's effort to genetically engineer a more efficient zero-G work based heavily on the Terran Great Apes.

Once a groundhog always a groundhog.....

Love it! Role-play is awesome.
 
GypsyComet said:
both developed in significant gravity, so at the "Race" level they are going to be pretty similar.

As long as you're not role-playing your Vargr simply as a human wearing a dog's mask. Then ok.
 
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