Annatar Giftbringer said:Greetings,
Another thing I’d love to see (kinda related to the above) is a CSC/vehicle handbook-heavy supplement for the imperial marines. There are some great resources about them already within JTAS and Element box, but not so much in the stat and detail areas.
What models of battledress do they use? Are there any standard or typical slot loadouts? What kinds of APCs, support vehicles and tanks do they use? Perhaps throw in a high guard section as well, with dropships and troop transports?
Annatar Giftbringer said:Greetings,
Another thing I’d love to see (kinda related to the above) is a CSC/vehicle handbook-heavy supplement for the imperial marines. There are some great resources about them already within JTAS and Element box, but not so much in the stat and detail areas.
What models of battledress do they use? Are there any standard or typical slot loadouts? What kinds of APCs, support vehicles and tanks do they use? Perhaps throw in a high guard section as well, with dropships and troop transports?
JTAS Vol.4 p.69 (Mongoose) said:The Imperial Marine Corps was originally formed as an adjunct to the naval forces but has developed into a complete combat service in its own right.
Annatar Giftbringer said:JTAS Vol.4 p.69 (Mongoose) said:The Imperial Marine Corps was originally formed as an adjunct to the naval forces but has developed into a complete combat service in its own right.
The example task force presented here is on wartime deployment as a significant combat force. It is light on administrative and support capabilities as these are provided by higher echelon formations or the Imperial Navy
I would think the writings of Marc Miller trump Mongoose authorial lack of research and knowledge of the OTU. Come to think of it it also has to trump Loren's version of Imperial Marines since it was Loren who wrote the original JTAS article. Perhaps this is the long sought point of departure from the OTU and the GT:ATU?Annatar Giftbringer said:JTAS Vol.4 p.69 (Mongoose) said:The Imperial Marine Corps was originally formed as an adjunct to the naval forces but has developed into a complete combat service in its own right.
Annatar Giftbringer said:The example task force presented here is on wartime deployment as a significant combat force. It is light on administrative and support capabilities as these are provided by higher echelon formations or the Imperial Navy
Sounds like they’re still part of the navy.
Sigtrygg said:I would think the writings of Marc Miller trump Mongoose authorial lack of research and knowledge of the OTU. Come to think of it it also has to trump Loren's version of Imperial Marines since it was Loren who wrote the original JTAS article. Perhaps this is the long sought point of departure from the OTU and the GT:ATU?Annatar Giftbringer said:JTAS Vol.4 p.69 (Mongoose) said:The Imperial Marine Corps was originally formed as an adjunct to the naval forces but has developed into a complete combat service in its own right.
Marc has always referred to the marines of the Third Imperium as Imperial Star Marines.
It's not a question about getting worked up, it is a question of canon.Old School said:There are numerous examples of “Imperial Marine” being used in Marc Miller materials, including CT, MT, T5, and AotI. So although your “defender of the canon” efforts are admirable in intent, maybe this one isn’t worth getting so worked up about.
I didn’t mean that I demanded to see ships belonging to and being operated by marines, I just mean it could be interesting to see ships that transport and support troops.Perhaps throw in a high guard section as well, with dropships and troop transports?
Disregarding in-universe canon, if you had a marine equivalent of the Element Cruiser campaign, then which roles are filled by marines and which by navy characters would be relevant for both the story, and, I guess, character choices.I’m not sure why them being or not being a part of the navy would be relevant either..? Unless you’re thinking about this part:
Without knowing what Sigtrygg has in mind, there's two bits - nomenclature and rules:Finally, not to start an argument or anything, just genuine curiosity, but what is the issue about grav tanks vs gunships?
Sigtrygg said:If you really want to see me worked up ask about grav tanks vs gunships or how people have getting time in jump wrong ever since HG, and finally jump masking...![]()
Sigtrygg said:Can you at least get their name right - Imperial Star Marines according to MWM (JTAS, AotI and interviews).