Oh oh oh - they appear (in the text) in the system profiles in the wiki, AND on the summary pages. I am such a muppet.
Apologies all round, and especially to @MasterGwydion who actually showed me the page they are on a few weeks ago
I believe the UWP system's data on Traveller Map and Traveller Wiki are all generated by T5 rules. While I see Mongoose credits on those sites, I don't see the WBH in any of the credits, at all.Oh oh oh - they appear (in the text) in the system profiles in the wiki, AND on the summary pages. I am such a muppet.
Apologies all round, and especially to @MasterGwydion who actually showed me the page they are on a few weeks ago
Yeah, I use the Traveller Map system generator sometimes for convenience, and it is definitely T5. The autogenerate has the advantage of making insta-maps, and it goes straight off the partial data in Traveller wiki which is very convenient. But it also raises some problems, such as world temp calculations being crazy, and high population and low tech popping up in places they don't belong on secondary planets. There seem to be a LOT of larger terrestrial worlds compared to WBH, in which these don't pop up so much. It generates a text describing any world you map (LLM AI?), which sometimes kinda works, and sometimes not at all, but it is a useful feature to get inspiration if you're short on ideas at the moment. IMO, the WBH produces more realistic seeming results which also fit into my game's needs better. I've gotten a feel for both, though and so I use the one that tends to generate the kind of system I need at the moment. If I need a world map, but also a realistic solar system, sometimes I'll mix and match.
The data there does seem to include WBH elements such as importance, GWP etc though
I don't have T5, so someone who uses it can maybe comment, but it is my impression that WBH took some inspiration from some T5 aspects, which also helps as it makes the Traveller Map more easily usable. Could also be that both borrow from the same earlier publication too - Consult the Ancient Scrolls! Regardless of its origin, though, I find it useful input for coming up with a setting.
Those elements are a part of T5 - although T5's generation procedures are different and generate different distributions. If I'm not mistaken, there are also some differences in nuance between the two systems. (Gier mentioned these issues - admittedly, somewhat offhandedly so it's easy to overlook - in his WBH.)
Yeah it has a tendency to do things like garden worlds which are hundreds of Celsius (not Kelvin) at the equator and tech level 3.
I've never looked at the T5 stuff, but have been able to figure out what it means using the WBH - at least the things that I use. So I think you don't need T5.
Probably this is the case for lots of high population planets. Look at the politics of any airport expansion - it is often easier to build capacity by building a new facility than to get the permission and buy the land you need. Plus, you might as well land closer to your destination and any high pop planet will have lots of potential destinations.
