Wargamers - Uber Table Survey

[nezeray]

Wow I've never thought of doing it that way before thats cool! I wish te store I used to play warhammer knew about that it was just tacked into place!
I know making a board is a false economy really, but the difference is a gradual expense compared to all at once, and the postage on a full board would be absurd! Thats just me though, sadly if I had 200 quid + burning a hole in my pocket it wouldn't be going on a board :lol:

Another thing you can do (if you have a very light touch) when the matting is totally dry and set in place.

Shade and highlight the tops and recesses with coloured sprays. Dark Green, mid Green, and a Light Green/Yellow (for the final dusting).

Alright Trooper, this off topic conversation needs to go to the Painting or Terrain topic with lots of pictures and step by step proceedures.

That way I don't have to scroll through this thread looking for the information that I want.

Nezeray

p.s. I'd buy the movable scenery as a separate item. Doing the base flat terrain isn't that hard.

 

[Whatisitgoodfor?]

Yes. I would definitely want to buy it.

Price? Not sure, but I haven't been put off by Mongoose pricing so far.

I'd be more interested in buying the hills/rocks than the buildings/boxes, and would be happpiest if they were available seperately.

 

[BizGF]

I would definetly buy one. Only for 200 or less though. . .I'm not made of money :lol:

 

[knuckles]

Yes I would use it, price would depend on the materials and durability of the final product, so culd not really put a tag on it without more detail. But definitely like the idea.

 

[Mac V]

I'll put down what I would consider a sweet system and what I'm looking for.

1st: Has to be modular. All boards should fit to other boards (within reason. Jungle just wouldn't look right to desert). Terrain pieces should be moveable when possible and paired with some varying boards. A basic grass board and hills would thus be useable with any properly sized minis by just placing appropriate buildings and terrain. Possible boards: swamps, city, desert, moonscape, etc.

2nd: Reasonable price. I REALLY like the approach of the Evolution games on this front. I don't mind paying a fair price, but double the cost to make them is too much to me. At some point the price would make it easier to just make myself.

3rd: I like the idea of terrain packs. Stalingrad ruins, trees/forests/rubble are some ideas.

4th Durability: The tougher it is, the more attractive due to portability.

5th Looks: It's gotta do the Evo minis justice!

Any which way, I think there's money to be made here. There's minis everywhere, even pre painted. No one is really making a complete terrain system useable with those minis. I would really like to spend money on such a beast if it were to ever occur.

 

[Eisho]

I'd be willing to pay $200-300 for something like this, depending on the production standard.

On a more general note, I really welcome this pre-painted move that Mongoose is making. I've noted on other threads but will reiterate here: the amount of time saved for me is the most important thing. Not having to paint and assemble figures and terrain is a positive move. It allows me to do those things at my own pace and allows modelling to become (for me) a hobby again rather than a busy one-man production process.

Cheers,

Eisho

 

[Aniyn]

Honesty, I don't care for it; much too.....bland.
Nothing there really strikes me as being terribly interesting or useful.

 

[MrCyNic]

I'd definitely be interested.

In terms of both price and quality, the standards to match would be those of Total System Scenic (http://www.totalsystemscenic.com), which is where I currently get all my terrain boards.

TSS boards range in price from around £6-£12 for each 2'x2' section, meaning that a full 6'x4' gaming table with built-in hills and contours would cost something in the region of £60 plus postage. Obviously, major features like buildings, larger cliffs and the rock spires shown in the pictures of the Mongoose table would be on top of that, and tend to cost around £15-£25 each from places like Terrascenic (www.terrascenic-online.co.uk).

Looking at the Mongoose set-up, I could probably build something of that nature for around £200 plus postage. That's a very rough estimate, of course, and the TSS boards I'd be using would be much less fully-textured than the ones in the picture. Because of that, I'd be prepared prepared to go higher - but I'd have to think very hard before spending over £250 for a gaming table

Cheers,

Cy.

 

[Reaverman]

My own boards are getting an overhaul right now. Years of chipping away at the PVA/Sand surface has resulted in some polystyrene showing through. I decided to just cut up a couple of GW battlemats and recover them with that, but it's taking an age to do it nicely (and I think I've already messed up the one I'm doing and will probably start again).

Rethinking my earlier statement, I'd probably go for a desert or urban board to compliment rather than replace my existing setup.

There are tricks to putting the matts on properly. They can be SOOOOOOOOOO tricky though.

The Hex terrain that I am making, is being edged with cardboard. To make them a little resilient

 

[Mac V]

In terms of both price and quality, the standards to match would be those of Total System Scenic (http://www.totalsystemscenic.com), which is where I currently get all my terrain boards.

I was going to order a test tile, but I got to the shipping and BAM! 40 pounds for an 8 pound tile! I'm out. They are nice though. Shipping to the states could be an issue for the Mongoose set as well. I hope not.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

In terms of both price and quality, the standards to match would be those of Total System Scenic (http://www.totalsystemscenic.com), which is where I currently get all my terrain boards.

I was going to order a test tile, but I got to the shipping and BAM! 40 pounds for an 8 pound tile! I'm out. They are nice though. Shipping to the states could be an issue for the Mongoose set as well. I hope not.

If Mongoose are doing them, surely you can order them direct from Mongoose in the US?

 

[Mac V]

I hope so. Mongoose's "Project Ubertable" is going to have a direct effect on the Evo stuff for me. I love the minis I've seen (and can't wait to see the Conan ones!). But, I just don't have time to hunt down and/or craft terrain for all the games. Hell, I'm not even going to have time to paint for the next few months. My second boy came yesterday!

Anyway, if they make an affordable, modular terrain system that can be used with all their minis, I will be into at least 2 games. If not, I'm on the fence for maybe one.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

I hope so. Mongoose's "Project Ubertable" is going to have a direct effect on the Evo stuff for me. I love the minis I've seen (and can't wait to see the Conan ones!). But, I just don't have time to hunt down and/or craft terrain for all the games. Hell, I'm not even going to have time to paint for the next few months. My second boy came yesterday!

Anyway, if they make an affordable, modular terrain system that can be used with all their minis, I will be into at least 2 games. If not, I'm on the fence for maybe one.

REALLY! Congrats buddy! (I've got one of each)

Conan mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . .

 

[Mac V]

Thanks LT! That's 2 boys for me and I'm done!

Back to the table. I was just thinking that the more lines the terrain is compatable with, the more minis I will want to fight over it! I'm thinking that the only terrain that really is different between WWII, Modern, Future, and Fantasy is buildings and possibly some different foliage. Man, I really hope this happens.

Matt, I'm not looking for an exact date, but could you drop a hint on a POSSIBLE time frame? Months or Years type thing?

 

[KJ]

I'd pay up to $200-250 USD for a prepainted, delivered table like this. A couple of suggestions from my NSHO:

1. Lose the buildings. No offense intended, but there are nicer looking structures already available on the market. Maybe a bunker/trench system would be more appropriate for a Big K table.

2. Trim the bases of the spires/outcroppings. Makes for a much nicer looking finished product.


That is all.

 

[byram]

$200 or so

 

[BuShips]

Matt knows that shipping is the killer here on something like this, because of the volume it takes up. Besides making my custom examples of boards that I've shown in S&P, I've been drumming my head over the possibilities of offering something up to Mongoose to sell to/with them but they just didn't know it (you do now, don't you Matt? :wink: ). Of course the less the T-boards are offered for, the more they'll sell of them (just like wide-screen HD televisions), but I'd venture $250-$300 at the very bottom, based on that coverage and also including the movable terrain pieces. I also would not be too surprised that they would need a higher selling price, due to the major impact that shipping costs influence this sort of product. Kindly sharing my own thoughts on bringing down weight and size for shipping, I had been thinking of vacu-formed pre-shaped table pieces 18" or 24" square, with squared-off side walls that could be clipped to adjacent panels. These could then be backfilled with spray foam for added strength. Any "loose" terrain such as stagmites, hills and rock formations could be grouped and constructed to conform to the "chinese box" method so that several of a similar shape would be a touch smaller so as to fit underneath others for storage and shipping. After delivery, each customer would decide to leave the pieces as stackable or fill them perhaps with household spray foam. These are some of the thoughts I had come up with, but I do not know what Matt has planned for the company he is working with. The point of critical balance for Mongoose will be to offer this for less than what others in the industry are currently asking, and they have shown us already that they are darn good at offering good value to their customers. Any here that have not answered Matt's question consider seriously that this is 1) modular and expandable, 2) repositionable, 3) prefinished and 4) includes at least a dozen "topographical" terrain pieces (hey, a dozen guys!). I'd say that a vacu-formed bug-central and bughole pack can't be far behind (darn, I was thinking of a way to do those, too ). Par for the course in my pitiful little life :lol: . I do hope that Matt has a "recipe" already calculated to offer great value like that of the upcoming SST:Evo and BF:Evo units. He would have a happy crowd of customers.

 

[Mac V]

$250 to $300 for something like BuShips would probably work for me. Especially if it's useable with multiple mini lines and is to the level of looks as the EVO lines.

 

[BuShips]

$250 to $300 for something like BuShips would probably work for me. Especially if it's useable with multiple mini lines and is to the level of looks as the EVO lines.

Thanks, but I didn't really want to cloud Matt's question up by what you'd pay for something I've made up, but rather what Matt's pictures show of the pieces being offered as a sample product. I do understand that it is an answer though, if given a bit in an indirect manner :wink: .

 

[Mac V]

OK. I'd pay that price for EITHER as long as it hits my points from above.