VaS 2.0 confirmed!

Sounds like it should be alright then, not too many drastic changes and as counters appear to still be a viable option I can still play without having to layout on a fleet of models - so no need to split expenditure between ACTA: SF and this as a matter of urgency.

Looking forward to the inevitable preview and future pre-release articles.
 
carthaginian said:
The game that allowed for precise adding of any ship was Grand Fleets. They just changed it to be more like Axis & Allies War at Sea, right as it was getting interesting... the Russo-Japanese war book was coming out.


Well in their defense Grand Fleets III is not out yet - so hard to say if it will be like A&A. They will be using a table of "how many dice do a roll and I need 5's", but other than that I don't think the games will be that similar. I'm sure it is true though that you won't be able to add your own weapons anymore.

While I did like Grand Fleets II, and the cool ship conversion rules, the lack of aircraft was disappointing for me. That's one reason I'm really looking forward to VaS 2.0.

Now given that MG is promising an insane number of ships, one would presume they are using some sort of design forumula to come up with not only ship stats but ship points. I'm sure there will be some tweaking based on playtesting, but given the huge volume of ships I can't imagine each ship would have to be designed without some sort of formulaic approach. Perhaps they will make this public and allow it to be used for "unofficial" ships? Could be handy for a campaign!

Now speaking of VaS 2.0 - how is testing/development going? Can we get any previews or commentary? For one, what's different from Vas 1.0?

-Tim
 
I can tell you the gun systems for each fleet is coming along nicely. There is a very specific system. Designing fleets is coming along slower but progressing do to amount. I cant tell you much since Im not the main man here and he's quite busy. The previews of planes and ships Rock, and at 1/1800 they will shine. Hope I didnt say to much.
 
rcbecker1 said:
I can tell you the gun systems for each fleet is coming along nicely. There is a very specific system. Designing fleets is coming along slower but progressing do to amount. I cant tell you much since Im not the main man here and he's quite busy. The previews of planes and ships Rock, and at 1/1800 they will shine. Hope I didnt say to much.

No you didn't say too much, it all sounds great. Now how many Bothans died to bring you this message? :wink:
 
All great news. I can't wait!

The switch to 1/1800 scale ships sure tipped my hand. I will be buying them.
I just hope they fill in some of the gaps in the WaS line. The future of that game is very uncertain, WotC has not had any announcements for a while now....just silence.

All this is gonna prompt me to splurg and buy a new gaming mat!
My old one is starting to look a little ratty.

Peace
 
Wow, missed the announcement about the 1/1800. Interesting - while I have a bucket of 1/1800 from A&A it will be very tempting to pick up some extra resin models to beef up what I have already - and I'll be very interested should/when WWI fleets come out.

-Tim
 
You must of missed the anouncement I post at The forum mini site.
WWI way down the road if done.
But planes and ships for WWII. Will be great getting all the stuff skipped and sister ships.
Also the mini picture preveiws look great. The new rules will be way more detailed and expansive than the VAS 1.0 rules.
 
Thunder said:
All great news. I can't wait!

The switch to 1/1800 scale ships sure tipped my hand. I will be buying them.
I just hope they fill in some of the gaps in the WaS line. The future of that game is very uncertain, WotC has not had any announcements for a while now....just silence.

All this is gonna prompt me to splurg and buy a new gaming mat!
My old one is starting to look a little ratty.

Peace

Try out the new rules when they come out you may switch to inches and a blue sheet like me.
(or painted table as others do)
 
rcbecker1 said:
Try out the new rules when they come out you may switch to inches and a blue sheet like me.

I do use inches and a blue sheet (mine is felt) for VaS. :)

I am pondering a new Hotz Matt....my old blue felt is looking ratty.

Peace
 
Sorry I thought you played WAS and was thinking about playing VAS. I have a blue cloth that will cover a 16' x 10' table. Dont like felt everything sticks to it and its hard to clean.
 
Ah, okay, found it.

That's exciting.

So, what is the initial release for VaS going to be? Is it WWII mainbook and minis. WWI as a supplement?

-Tim
 
AdmiralGrafSpee said:
Ah, okay, found it.

That's exciting.

So, what is the initial release for VaS going to be? Is it WWII mainbook and minis.
WWI as a supplement?

-Tim

As for the WWII mainbook and minis. Still working on both. no release date yet.
As for the WWI supplement; it is an expasion to the First Edition of Age of Dreadnaughts. As far as I know its complete but I dont have a release date yet.
 
Well if WW1 ever gets released I'm in.
Never was very interested in WW2 naval with the coming of the carrier born aircraft.
Aircraft just suck the fun right out a game for me :shock:
Though I readily understand others disagree with me.

On the bright side, by the time a WW1 version releases the core rules will have been run through the ringer and worked through all the errata :wink:
 
WWI is allready out, and theres an expansion coming out but I dont have a release date yet.
AOD Is way cleaned up and great stuff, I just dont play WWI.


vasaod.jpg




For sale at:
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/victory-at-sea/age-of-dreadoughts.html
 
rcbecker1 said:
WWI is allready out, and theres an expansion coming out but I dont have a release date yet.
AOD Is way cleaned up and great stuff, I just dont play WWI.

OK, then I have a question. All the positive comments about VaS 2.0. tells me that 2.0 is a better version of the game. I am assuming that AoD 1.0 followed VaS 1.0 and that if I want AoD that takes advantage of the 2.0 rule improvements I would need to wait for VaS 2.0 to be followed by AoD 2.0.
 
Ya I have to say with all this talk about VaS 2.0 I can't see getting into AoD 1.0 right now. I guess for those enjoying AoD 1.0 right now a supplement will be welcome. I will probably hold off until AoD 2.0 w/resin minis before I take the plunge into WWI naval.

-Tim
 
many things in VAS AOD were corrected from WWII VAS. some scales corrected and such and with the expansion comming it takes care of theres not enough ships and fleets issue.
 
AdmiralGrafSpee said:
Ya I have to say with all this talk about VaS 2.0 I can't see getting into AoD 1.0 right now. I guess for those enjoying AoD 1.0 right now a supplement will be welcome. I will probably hold off until AoD 2.0 w/resin minis before I take the plunge into WWI naval.

-Tim

As far as I know there is no plans for an AOD 2.0
 
rcbecker1 said:
AdmiralGrafSpee said:
Ya I have to say with all this talk about VaS 2.0 I can't see getting into AoD 1.0 right now. I guess for those enjoying AoD 1.0 right now a supplement will be welcome. I will probably hold off until AoD 2.0 w/resin minis before I take the plunge into WWI naval.

-Tim

As far as I know there is no plans for an AOD 2.0


Well too bad. For me anyway :wink:

I know that there are a lot of people that really look forward to the WW2 game, but I'm not one of them. Nothing against the game itself, but the play and overall feel is completely different when you add fighters into it. No matter how you cut it, crunchy fun of a close engagement by warships, be they galleys, sailing ships, or WW1 era battle-wagons ceases to exist and is replaced by over the horizon cat-n-mouse followed up by fighter/bomber/torpedo attacks with the surface combatants sinking. Everything except the carriers and how many operational aircraft they have becomes irrelevant. Just not fun to me.

But I do hope everyone interested in that type of game have a good time of it. I have a copy of AoD 1.0 and will be reading through it, but there do not appear to be any manufacturers of mini's that are in distribution. So it doesn't look like WW1 naval is in the cards for a good while yet, if ever.
 
Heres a few places to get them:

Naval Miniatures Suppliers

STRANGE CARGO GAMES

SCALE SPECIALTIES
Scale Specialties distributes a very wide range of naval miniatures (all eras) and related products from a number of manufacturers. A comprehensive selection of Navwar and Hallmark miniatures can be found in their catalog.

GHQ MODELS
1/1200th scale Napoleonic Micronauts- line of English, French, American and Spanish sailing ships. 1/2400th scale Great War Micronauts- line of British and German WWI ships. 1/2400th scale WWII Micronauts- line of US, Japanese, British, German, French, and Italian WWII ships. 1/2400th scale Modern Microanuts- line of US, Russian, and British modern ships.

LANGTON MINIATURES
Langton Miniatures manufacture and retail the following naval specific ranges: Napoleonic Naval in Scale 1:1200 and 1:300, Ancient Naval in Scale 1:1200 and 1:300, Anglo Dutch 1:1200, ACW Naval 1:1200, Buildings & Dockside Series in Scale 1:1200 (Napoleonic), Buildings & Harbour in Scale 1:1200 (Ancient), WW1 Coastal in Scale 1:200 (inc Flying Boats & Floatplanes). PLUS, we import ACW Naval by Thoroughbred, USA in Scale 1:600.

PETER PIG
1/600th ACW naval including forts and land forces, 1/450th Pirate ships(metal kits), and 1/100th Steam Picket launch WW1.

NAVWAR
Very large selection of 1:3000 warships for a wide variety of periods, including an extensive list of pre-dreadnought era warships.

MORNING SUNSHINE MODELS
MSM is dedicated to providing our customers with the finest products possible, excellent service, and great prices. Primary lines consist of 1/1250 scale metal models that are handcrafted and fully assembled in Europe (Germany, England, and Austria) and painted in authentic colors. These models are exquisitely detailed and precise, and most of them represent the best in the world. Their small size makes them ideal for collecting, war games and mementos.

VIKING FORGE
Large selection of 1:2400 warships. Minifleet is a 1/2400 scale waterline ship line, covering many periods of naval warfare, from the Pre-Dreadnought era through the Modern period. for a wide variety of periods, including an extensive list of pre-dreadnought era warships.

THE WAR TIMES JOURNAL
A well-designed web site with lots of articles, free wargame rules and a line of very nicely detailed 1:3000 pre-dreadnought miniatures.

NOBLE MINIATURES - HALLMARK
The US distributor of the Hallmark ship range. Hallmark ships are 1:6000 scale ships covering a period from 1895 to the Modern era. Virtualy every ship involved in the Russo Japanese, First and Second World Wars are included along with many theoretical ships never actually built. There is also an extensive range covering the pre-dreadnought area.

NAVIGATOR MINIATURES - HALLMARK UK
The UK/Europe distributor of the Hallmark ship range.

PANZERSHIFFE MINIATURES
This is the home of 1/2400 scale model ships for the wargamer. Over 500 historical naval miniatures in durable epoxy castings.
 
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