Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
True. The way I use them, I use docking clamps to hold them in place, rather than physically attached, but the point is well taken.
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Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
The difference, being, that they become an integral part of the primary hull, after some time fitting in spacedock.
Thus, the jump drive can suck fuel from them directly.
Sort of like breakaway, except, without being able to breakaway.
Unbreakawayable.
Thus, the jump drive can suck fuel from them directly.
Sort of like breakaway, except, without being able to breakaway.
Unbreakawayable.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
And why couldn’t a docking clamp perform the same function? It is a firm connection that could support fuel linkages, power couplings, and even a flexible docking vestibule.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
'Cos someone seems to have forgotten to add that in, anywhere.
I think there might have been an apparatus that took over the bridge network of boarded spacecraft, but I can't remember where; and I suspect you'd have penalties, and/or latencies.
For fuel, you could make the cargo hull a drop tank equivalent, in terms of adding in plumbing - easy in terms of the primary hull, somewhat vague in how that works in the cargo hull, and iffy in terms of robustness.
I think there might have been an apparatus that took over the bridge network of boarded spacecraft, but I can't remember where; and I suspect you'd have penalties, and/or latencies.
For fuel, you could make the cargo hull a drop tank equivalent, in terms of adding in plumbing - easy in terms of the primary hull, somewhat vague in how that works in the cargo hull, and iffy in terms of robustness.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Then it should be added in. Docking clamps provide a firm connection that can reasonably be projected to allow for that.
ResslynHalvik
Mongoose
- Fractional dT fuel processors (I use a 0.75^(TL-8) rule).
- Clarification on "free" airlocks for small craft
- Life support plant
- Life support power/cost rules to bring all pressurised spaces into line with staterooms
- Clarification on "free" airlocks for small craft
- Life support plant
- Life support power/cost rules to bring all pressurised spaces into line with staterooms
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
I'd get rid of the airlock freebies.
Takes up volume that should be paid for, and it's only justification is that you need to access the interior of the spacecraft.
Takes up volume that should be paid for, and it's only justification is that you need to access the interior of the spacecraft.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Someone pointed out that the 100-ton scout ships included in High Guard Update 2022 have the bridge incorrectly as 10 tons rather than 6 tons as called for by the Core rulebook Update 2024. @MongooseMatt chimed in to say the core rulebook was correct. Might include other 100-ton ships as well.
Core Rulebook 2024:
High Guard 2022:
That makes the following High Guard designs wrong on bridge tonnage:
EXPRESS BOAT
TYPE: S (SULIEMAN CLASS) SCOUT/COURIER
TYPE: J SEEKER MINING SHIP
CLASS: SERPENT SCOUT
Looks like the scout can finally get some common area AND the express boat could fit in a maneuver drive. (I know because I made a variant that can.)
Core Rulebook 2024:
High Guard 2022:
That makes the following High Guard designs wrong on bridge tonnage:
EXPRESS BOAT
TYPE: S (SULIEMAN CLASS) SCOUT/COURIER
TYPE: J SEEKER MINING SHIP
CLASS: SERPENT SCOUT
Looks like the scout can finally get some common area AND the express boat could fit in a maneuver drive. (I know because I made a variant that can.)
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Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
My rule is to audit any spacecraft before using it.
Ezarhon
Mongoose
In my initial question, Matt chimed in that the CRB is the 'official' ruling, at least in a Bridge tonnage capacity. I would surmise he meant that CRB is the most updated update so far.
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
To be fair, the HG'22 ships were made prior to the CRB update, and so were not built incorrectly at the time.
The problem with the CRB update on bridges is that only a single ton is changed on the CRB table, and none of the examples in the CRB reflect that change.
Ezarhon
Mongoose
If you read the original post, and the CRB for that matter, I posted that it is clear the 2 Scout ship examples in the CRB have been built with the 10 Ton Bridge. Terry Mixon went on to point out a few other ships missed out on saved tonnage from the updated '24 CRB table. So in fact there are discrepancies in the book. Matt was kind enough to chime in and state that the CRB '24 is the 'official' rule set. Extra tonnage for 100T ships all round!
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
I was addressing the HG'22 ships, which were not off until CRB changed the single ton in the table two years later.
Pointing out the ships in the CRB was to highlight the appearance that the single ton change was an apparent typo, and therefore ignored by many of us since it's release, due to the ships not being reconfigured. I know Matt chimed in and that is why I updated my design spreadsheet shortly thereafter.
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Ezarhon
Mongoose
Awesome! Any chance of a link to your spreadsheet? The one I am using is a bit dated I think.
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
Excel ship designer thread in the forum
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
It is broken down by tabs, matching the high guard construction flow. Creation starts on the green tab. Technetium 98 has one and Another Dilbert uses an older one. You can contact them for info on where those sheets are. I am not aware of any other active shared sheets than those.
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