Traveller, TAS, and AI

[boggo2300]

To reiterate, we've been here before.

Ethically speaking, how many books have been ghostwritten, or even cooperatively, with a single person taking the credit?

Personally, I've been considering feeding the military organization aspects of my Vargr thread to an artificial intelligence generator, and see what is extruded, and then submit that.

you are conflating different things

Ghost Writers are PAID to write

people whose prose is stolen by LLC's are not paid

Collaborative writing is usually published under a made up (often conlation of the authors names, Grant Naylor, or James Corey, OR with all author names listed, Niven and Pournelle, or at least mentioned in a preface, Tom Clancy and Larry Bond.) those other cases tend to be rare, and are indeed immoral.

EVERYTHING "written" with an LLC is stealing someonelses words, without exceptiion, sometime with permission, but mostly without, thats a HUGE difference to some edge cases of an edge case of writing.

 

[Condottiere]

If it is a question of unlicensed copyright, when would that expire?

If the database only extends to that, would it be ethical?

Definitely, in a hundred years from now, since drawing styles seem rather stuck, as music is, we then should be able to employ this method without undue legal or ethical concerns.

 

[Sigtrygg]

No, I don't think a meaningful number of in particular rpg artist says this.

I'm not talking about what the artists say, commercial artists have already adopted AI.

I am relating what every small publisher who will no longer be able to publish for TAS has said. This is not the first thread on this topic, there have been many. Read back and you will find the consensus among the small publishers is they will drop out of the TAS program for the simple reason they can not afford to pay for art.

This decision is not going to see more work for human artists, it is going to see less small publishers in TAS. That is my prediction, let's see what happens.

 

[middenface]

Well for the record this publisher is not dropping TAS and I know one other is not.

 

[Sigtrygg]

You have the resources for art, you can do it yourself, many can't.

If you provide your art, for free, to other publishers then another artist is losing work regardless of AI use.

 

[Hardwire]

You have the resources for art, you can do it yourself, many can't.

If you provide your art, for free, to other publishers then another artist is losing work regardless of AI use.

No, If the publisher was not going to continue publishing because they could not afford to pay an artist then there was no work to loose.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Lose, the word is lose, loose is the opposite of tight. AI doesn't pick up that mistake...

If the publisher is provided free art they can stay in business. No artist is paid.

If not the publisher goes out of business and no artist is paid... the upshot of free art is artists out of work, the upshot of no free art is artists out of work - catch 22.