No books are omitted, and there will be a (small) new chapter included.
Noted on the slipcase - we have done this before with Pirates of Drinax, and should be good with this one
Traveller Release Schedule 2025
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Noted on the slipcase - we have done this before with Pirates of Drinax, and should be good with this one
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
You guys realize I'm already anticipating circumventing energy requirement(s) by installing components in spacecraft.
I'm willing to eat the exorbitant volume translations, to get that rapid fire dogfight munitions.
I'm willing to eat the exorbitant volume translations, to get that rapid fire dogfight munitions.
agentwigggles
Cosmic Mongoose
agentwigggles
Cosmic Mongoose
Whats The Ine Givar?
Geir
Emperor Mongoose
Is that a sponsorship deal? Like official Toothpaste of the Imperial Navy?
G'Naakbusters
Emperor Mongoose
If the Ine Givar has Vilani roots, maybe they can't resist the urge to do things by procedure? "We're an illegal counter-culture revolutionary movement/fifth column, not barbarians. Of course we've registered correctly at the Office of Subversive Counterculture."
Of course. The political wing.
Please *do not* call any future edition revisions the "Core XXXX Update", it really makes it look odd, supplemental rather than core, and confuses newcomers since it implies that it has a shelf life. The number of times I have to clear this up IRL and online is just too many.
Happy to take on suggestions about this - as a concept, we think this is solid as (to a degree) it avoids New Edition Syndrome. Putting a year on books seems to be a good way to ensure people know what the latest printing is?
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
I personally think it’s fine. It lets us know when the update was and is consistent with the other updates titles.
CordwainerFish
Emperor Mongoose
Yeah, the only thing worse than one naming convention that isn't the best is two naming conventions.
Sigtrygg
Emperor Mongoose
The update is significantly different to the original 2e CRB - starship design now being included.
I have seen this come up at least twice on rpgnet forums, people unsure if the update is a supplement or not, and the new printing with a new cover "update" causes yet more confusion.
I have seen this come up at least twice on rpgnet forums, people unsure if the update is a supplement or not, and the new printing with a new cover "update" causes yet more confusion.
Revision instead of Update?
I didn't have any confusion myself, so I don't know if that would help the people who did. But Revision is more accurate. Dunno how exactly to convey "This book is better than the previous version, but you don't have to buy it to keep playing".
D&D tried to do the same thing with 3.0/3.5 and now the 2014/2024 stuff, but those are bigger changes than anything in likely in the Traveller CRB changes. And, given the size of the gaming population, there's going to be some number of people who are going to be confused no matter what.
Revising and expanding the CRB to keep it current with the evolution of the game is definitely better than not doing so or declaring a 3rd edition over what's essentially errata and consolidation.
I didn't have any confusion myself, so I don't know if that would help the people who did. But Revision is more accurate. Dunno how exactly to convey "This book is better than the previous version, but you don't have to buy it to keep playing".
D&D tried to do the same thing with 3.0/3.5 and now the 2014/2024 stuff, but those are bigger changes than anything in likely in the Traveller CRB changes. And, given the size of the gaming population, there's going to be some number of people who are going to be confused no matter what.
Revising and expanding the CRB to keep it current with the evolution of the game is definitely better than not doing so or declaring a 3rd edition over what's essentially errata and consolidation.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Give it a number.
Edition-season-year.
Edition-season-year.
TrippyHippy
Emperor Mongoose
Personally, I think the next one should be called '50th Anniversary Edition’ as it will be a selling point even if the only thing you change is the cover.
Otherwise, I like the approach by Castles & Crusades which just refer to the ‘Printing’ number. They actually make it a selling point of the line that they haven’t changed any rules and therefore the contents remain fully compatible across all printings. It sounds like the model you are going for.
Versioning doesn't need to be on the front cover.
A small bit at the bottom of the copyright block inside the flyleaf would be enough.
Traveller 2nd Edition - Robot Handbook - Version n.x
.x = Minor Version - errata corrections and new art or layout. It's the same book and only covers errata published elsewhere. If you can download the new copy great, but probably not worth rebuying the dead tree edition.
n.0 = Major Version - content has been added / removed. Rules revisions. It's mostly the same book but there are changes that you need to be aware of. Most supplements will still work as we were careful to preserve the interfaces to them.
Robot Handbook = References in other supplements to this book have been preserved. If we changed the name, not so much so.
2nd Edition = Buckle up it's going to be a rough ride, we have revamped the whole game system. Large scale revisions to game mechanics. It's better, but most of your supplements are going to need heavy tweaking or complete replacement. Supplements with this in the version block are guaranteed to be compatible.
Traveller = You do realise this is not D&D don't you?
A small bit at the bottom of the copyright block inside the flyleaf would be enough.
Traveller 2nd Edition - Robot Handbook - Version n.x
.x = Minor Version - errata corrections and new art or layout. It's the same book and only covers errata published elsewhere. If you can download the new copy great, but probably not worth rebuying the dead tree edition.
n.0 = Major Version - content has been added / removed. Rules revisions. It's mostly the same book but there are changes that you need to be aware of. Most supplements will still work as we were careful to preserve the interfaces to them.
Robot Handbook = References in other supplements to this book have been preserved. If we changed the name, not so much so.
2nd Edition = Buckle up it's going to be a rough ride, we have revamped the whole game system. Large scale revisions to game mechanics. It's better, but most of your supplements are going to need heavy tweaking or complete replacement. Supplements with this in the version block are guaranteed to be compatible.
Traveller = You do realise this is not D&D don't you?
-Daniel-
Emperor Mongoose
I am going to disagree. This means people buying the product on-line will not know they bought an older version until it arrives. By having the version on the cover, even if it is a small notation, allows people to know what they are getting.
I like that Mongoose is being clear and transparent on the cover.
