Traveller: Babylon 5

[Darzoni]

Why not? Throw the Babylon 5 setting into the Traveller system.

 

[lastbesthope]

I think this has reappeared as a symtpom of the forum reset but here I go again.

We already have 2 versions of the B5 RPG from Mongoose, we were promised full compatibility of the old stuff with the new stuff, we never got it, we were promised stuff to allow us to convert the 1st edition over to 2E stats, we never got much of that, nowhere near enough of it.

The last thing Mongoose need to do is alienate their B5 RPG fanbase even more by switching systems again.

LBH

 

[AKAramis]

I think this has reappeared as a symtpom of the forum reset but here I go again.

We already have 2 versions of the B5 RPG from Mongoose, we were promised full compatibility of the old stuff with the new stuff, we never got it, we were promised stuff to allow us to convert the 1st edition over to 2E stats, we never got much of that, nowhere near enough of it.

The last thing Mongoose need to do is alienate their B5 RPG fanbase even more by switching systems again.

LBH

This is one of those cases where a conversions book would serve a double purpose.

1) It would allow mongoose to tap the larger Traveller market
2) it would allow those unwilling to use d20 access to Bab5.

 

[lastbesthope]

Yes, but if they did do a conversion document for B5, would it be for the 1E material or the 2E material, or both?

If they can do any of those then why haven't they done it already for the 2 existing editions.

If they don't do a conversion document, then, likely further fan alienation will ensue.

Sorry, but the lack of the promised conversion material for the B5 RPG editions is a personal bugbear of mine.

LBH

 

[flyingcircus]

I can care less, I have all the B5 1st edition books and refuse to buy 2nd edition, now that I have Traveller and it is far superior IMO to d20 anything, I say they just scrap d20 B5 and redo the whole darn thing as a Traveller version, why cater to WOC anymore, hopefully WOC will die from a failed 4th edition D&D anyhow!

 

[-Daniel-]

Although I would not mind seeing B5 done in the Traveller Rules, I have to say I understand why that would be a risky move for Mongoose. I think lastbesthope has a valid point that if I were Mongoose I would be thinking very hard about. Switching systems again could be harsh on the fans.

Daniel

 

[tneva82]

I say they just scrap d20 B5 and redo the whole darn thing as a Traveller version,

Maybe because that would leave one heck of a lot of pissed off customers who need to rebuy books in traveller version then? Oh look. Whole lot of books. All in need of replacement. Fun fun fun! Oh and expensive...

 

[Da Boss]

They seem to be running low on "new things" for the B5 rpg and if they are retaining the licence it would probbaly make sense to restart it again with the new system (even if the latter is not to my tatse - but then neither is D20 - but a good GM can make it palitable)

 

[lastbesthope]

They seem to be running low on "new things" for the B5 rpg and if they are retaining the licence it would probbaly make sense to restart it again with the new system (even if the latter is not to my tatse - but then neither is D20 - but a good GM can make it palitable)

Not meaning to be confrontational DB, but in what way do you think it would make sense for them to restart the B5 license in a new rules system? My opinion on the last system change is of course well known and less than positive :lol:

LBH

 

[Da Boss]

Purely in a "we have a new scfi system - lets exploit it way" :wink:
they are after all a commercial company are they not?

Often we complain about system changes but still go along with it (don't ask how much GW stuff I have and still buy) - they may gain new Traveller players as well..........

I understand you frustration but as ever we don't have to buy the new stuff - especially if they are just making the previously D20 stuff into Traveller stuff? Personally not an issue for me as I really only buy the B5 rpg stuff for the fluff...................

just pointing out why they might do it...................no idea how many Traveller players would want / hate or love the idea?

 

[tneva82]

Purely in a "we have a new scfi system - lets exploit it way" :wink:
they are after all a commercial company are they not?

And how would alienating existing player base be good comercial move?

You think there are sufficiently traveler rule fans who would be interested in B5 rules to compensate for all those existing B5 fans who would abandon Mongoose for protest over Mongoose turning all their expensive books useless?

 

[-Daniel-]

Ok, first let me make clear I am neutral on the whole B5/Traveller mash idea.

But I am real curious, how would Mongoose electing to publish a Traveller based B5 book make all of the B5 fan’s books useless?

If this happened then 4/5th of my collection would be useless. I own a few games that have moved on to new editions and rule systems and I still have no issue using what I already paid for.

So I understand if they did new materials in the new system only that would be harsh for the fans. I understand how if they ignored the first system and did not support it that would be harsh on the fans. But I need help understanding how publishing another book would make useless the books someone already owns.

Thanks in advance.

Daniel

 

[lastbesthope]

I understand you frustration but as ever we don't have to buy the new stuff - especially if they are just making the previously D20 stuff into Traveller stuff? Personally not an issue for me as I really only buy the B5 rpg stuff for the fluff...................

If they converted 1E stuff into Trav that would really honk me off, since they promised to give conversion information for 1E to 2E which we haven't got a complete set of yet.

But I see your points, for you it's less of an issue than it is for me obviously. The whole B5 RPG rules change is a personal bugbear of mine.

LBH

 

[lordmalachdrim]

But I am real curious, how would Mongoose electing to publish a Traveller based B5 book make all of the B5 fan’s books useless?

Don't know. I'm still running games in systems that were dropped years ago (Alternity), and guess what...They still work and I still get new players interested in the system.

 

[tneva82]

But I am real curious, how would Mongoose electing to publish a Traveller based B5 book make all of the B5 fan’s books useless?

Don't know. I'm still running games in systems that were dropped years ago (Alternity), and guess what...They still work and I still get new players interested in the system.

But do you get new material for them? If mongoose switch B5 to traveller then new stuff would be coming(suprise suprise) in traveller format so unless players are interested in doing traveller->d20 rule conversions for new material they are either out of new rules or switch to traveller rules which would mean buying all the traveller supplements with needed rules.

Plus there wouldn't be much of new B5 stuff expected for a while. Instead books concerning with old stuff in traveller rules...

 

[Da Boss]

Like I said don't really care about the rules - I have most of the Conan rpg books - don't like d20 and don't use it unless I have to - I buy them for the background...........

re B5 - how much more of the present edition is there to do - Gaim (which I was interested in - as I am presently playing a Gaim but seems to have disapeared) and a few other league odds and ends but what else??

I just thought it made sense for MGP to use their shiny new Traveller system and combine it with work already done.............

I am def not saying it won't annoy people cos it will - and I have no idea of Traveller people want it since I don't play that either Will it please more people than it annoys - no idea.........and thats the thing MGP will think about (if they are even considering it)

I have every edition of Stormbringer (including the dire D20 one) but use most of the GW editions rules cos I like it - but there are bits and pieces I nick from the others.........same as I have all editions of 40K :roll: