Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
Shooting AT a missile I meant.Alexb83 said:
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captainsmirk
Mongoose
That was their whole purpose in that part of Endgame, knocking out the missiles before they hit the Capital ships so that they could blast the sats.
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Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
It is interesting, however, that these were clearly special circumstances, and quite possibly different missile systems.captainsmirk said:
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captainsmirk
Mongoose
They are almost the only actual "Missiles" we see in the whole series other than on fighters...
And you did ask for an example, so I gave you one...
Nick
And you did ask for an example, so I gave you one...
Nick
Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
We also see Darkhawk-launched missiles if I remember rightly. Which possibly means that only the larger installation-launched missiles can be shot at.captainsmirk said:
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captainsmirk
Mongoose
I said almost...
And I seem to remember the Starfuries escorting the G'Quan away from B5 intercept some of the Primus' fire, although I could be wrong on that, haven't got the series with me to check...
Nick
And I seem to remember the Starfuries escorting the G'Quan away from B5 intercept some of the Primus' fire, although I could be wrong on that, haven't got the series with me to check...
Nick
Couple of notes - on the Alexander/Clarkstown I seem to recall that JMS actually made a statement that seeing lasers fired from the Alexander was a mistake on the part of the graphics guys. I'll have to go back and look at that episode again, but I believe they were supposed to fire their rear Pulse batteries which is why it was important for the Clarkstown's interceptors to be down.
Interceptors vs Beams - EA was the only race who's interceptors could affect beams. B5 Wars represented this by giving EA interceptors two separate abilities. The "Energy Web" was a flat modifier to the ship's defensive value, basically just making it harder for all incoming shots to hit. The Interceptors could then be fired (once per turn per interceptor IIRC) against a specific incoming shot to further decrease the shot's chances of hitting. Some other races had a similar effect, the Plasma Web for Pak'Ma'Ra and Particle Impeder for Abbai, but those systems were separate from the Interceptors.
Torpedoes/Missiles - I agree the current mechanic is a bit uninspiring. Having played BFG a lot, I like the idea of torps/missiles being vulnerable to interception by fighters and taking a turn or two to get to their target, but the BFG mechanic was a bit fiddly.
Given that there are ships which can move upwards of 20" on All Power to Engines, having a missile capable of covering 30" 'instantaneously' doesn't seem that far fetched. My thought would be to allow fighters escorting a capital ship (per SFoS rules) to have a chance at intercepting missiles. Due to stealth/maneuverability/small size/etc, torps/missiles would count as having Hull 6. One hit removes one AD from the incoming salvo. Roll to intercept before torps/missiles roll to hit (but after the firnig ship rolls for Stealth, if appropriate).
Interceptors vs Beams - EA was the only race who's interceptors could affect beams. B5 Wars represented this by giving EA interceptors two separate abilities. The "Energy Web" was a flat modifier to the ship's defensive value, basically just making it harder for all incoming shots to hit. The Interceptors could then be fired (once per turn per interceptor IIRC) against a specific incoming shot to further decrease the shot's chances of hitting. Some other races had a similar effect, the Plasma Web for Pak'Ma'Ra and Particle Impeder for Abbai, but those systems were separate from the Interceptors.
Torpedoes/Missiles - I agree the current mechanic is a bit uninspiring. Having played BFG a lot, I like the idea of torps/missiles being vulnerable to interception by fighters and taking a turn or two to get to their target, but the BFG mechanic was a bit fiddly.
Given that there are ships which can move upwards of 20" on All Power to Engines, having a missile capable of covering 30" 'instantaneously' doesn't seem that far fetched. My thought would be to allow fighters escorting a capital ship (per SFoS rules) to have a chance at intercepting missiles. Due to stealth/maneuverability/small size/etc, torps/missiles would count as having Hull 6. One hit removes one AD from the incoming salvo. Roll to intercept before torps/missiles roll to hit (but after the firnig ship rolls for Stealth, if appropriate).
Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
Don't get me wrong, I am actually somewhat in favour of the idea of fighters shooting missiles (I need it for my Star*Blazers conversion!), and of fighters performing interception (but it could get messy and needs careful rules testing). I'm just looking for the boundaries of the canon evidence.captainsmirk said:And I seem to remember the Starfuries escorting the G'Quan away from B5 intercept some of the Primus' fire, although I could be wrong on that, haven't got the series with me to check...
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Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
Give all missiles and torpedoes a new trait - ballistic. Weapons with the ballistic trait can be intercepted as normal, and fighters flying CAP on a ship's base can count as 1 interceptor die vs attacks by ballistic weapons. If they do so they lose the ability to intercept attacking fighters.
How's that? Quick and dirty but it could be refined by playtesting...
How's that? Quick and dirty but it could be refined by playtesting...
captainsmirk
Mongoose
Certainly quick.
As for dirty... :wink:
Nick
As for dirty... :wink:
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Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
Everything I do is dirty. That's why I play Centauri... :wink:
emperorpenguin
Mongoose
Lord David the Denied said:
Not a bad idea. I've been championing the cause of fighters acting as interceptors for ships for ages, would certainly make the saggitarius fleet less potent too........
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
You'd also be able to shift the fighters to cover threatened ships as and when. On the one hand, the opponent is dictating your use of fighters, but on the other, his missiles are denied unprotected targets. In the case of my own Centauri, fighters are put to better use defensively anyway.
emperorpenguin
Mongoose
Lord David the Denied said:
You're forced to make choices, which is always good, no brainers are usually bad in a game
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
Agreed. The whole series was about choices, after all... 
