This ships

Some of the ships have had noticable upgrades, with slight changes in shape. The Sparrowhawk for example. More of this would have been better.

I would have liked to see a little more variety added to the shape of Klingon hulls and Romulan Snipes/Eagles etc, if only to make them easier to differentiate on the tabletop.

And for the Federation ships to look a little less like they've just had an engine plonked onto a saucer and again provide a little visual differentiation (war destroyer and new cruisers are are all very similar).
 
On the other hand, while Mongoose and ADB are tied to their licenses and designs, we aren't. With easy access to 3D printing services, it's now a relatively simple matter to make our own detailed kitbash pieces that can be glued onto a 2500-series model - new boom engines, new warp nacelles, pagodas, wing guns, chin turrets, megaphaser wings, etc. Even small changes can have a large effect on ships that closely resemble each other.

Kling_Warbird_WIP_1.jpg


(model found on http://tykensrift.blogspot.com/)

(Paint choices can also help avoid the blahs with uninteresting fleets. White Feds do nothing for me, so my Imperial Earth fleets used to sport paint jobs taken from Russian Air Force camouflage patterns.)
 
Greg Smith said:
I would have liked to see a little more variety added to the shape of Klingon hulls and Romulan Snipes/Eagles etc, if only to make them easier to differentiate on the tabletop..

Greg pretty much nailed it, people I've shown the models have complained that telling classes apart is quite difficult at times.
 
emperorpenguin said:
Greg Smith said:
I would have liked to see a little more variety added to the shape of Klingon hulls and Romulan Snipes/Eagles etc, if only to make them easier to differentiate on the tabletop..

Greg pretty much nailed it, people I've shown the models have complained that telling classes apart is quite difficult at times.

in a world first, i agree with EP. I don't know who will be more shocked.
 
Zamboni said:
On the other hand, while Mongoose and ADB are tied to their licenses and designs, we aren't. With easy access to 3D printing services, it's now a relatively simple matter to make our own detailed kitbash pieces that can be glued onto a 2500-series model - new boom engines, new warp nacelles, pagodas, wing guns, chin turrets, megaphaser wings, etc. Even small changes can have a large effect on ships that closely resemble each other.

Kling_Warbird_WIP_1.jpg


(model found on http://tykensrift.blogspot.com/)

(Paint choices can also help avoid the blahs with uninteresting fleets. White Feds do nothing for me, so my Imperial Earth fleets used to sport paint jobs taken from Russian Air Force camouflage patterns.)


Good point - nice looking model there :) Looking forward to seeing the stats for it
 
Well said GG


emperorpenguin said:
Keeper Nilbog said:
emperorpenguin said:
The Gorns are just one design in varying sizes. They make for a very dull fleet, visually.

Until they light up the sky/space with all those bright Plasma's :roll:

Or rather until they explode under Romulan plasma :twisted:

Romulans, Bah. The back stabbers are no threat, they are more mobile than us but they have the same plasmas and need to close ranges. If I am in range of a Rom, he is in range of ME :twisted:

Also mr cloak say hello to Mr carronade (BDDs, well and DDs now, Sub hunters par excellence) :twisted:

Its those cowardly drone chuckers with 24" range Disruptors and 36" Drones that annoy me, at least the Feds close in and fight like Gorns not stay far away like and fight like, like, Tribbles :shock:

Still nothing wrong with polishing the image as it were. as far as I know mongoose doesn't operate the, erm, GW, policy of you MUST use the exact GW figure to represent the figure and if your captain or tank doesn't have a plasma gun then it isn't allowed to use one.

You can move things around, put the warp nacelles on the Klingon ships on the other side so they sweep outwards, add huge great disruptor cannon. Go for the flash paint job.

When they eventually arrive my Gorn are going to be dinosaur paint jobs, shades of greens with patches, stripes etc and flashes of brighter colours. I'm not good enough to do scales but that’s the thought, the Gorn are biped dinosaurs and have three sub species with colour schemes. No dull grey Gorns here.

Or a bit of kit bashing and blood red Klingons for the "Red Fleet" squadrons. A fed squadron of war era ships in black with skulls and cross bones. Within the limits of the models kit bash away.

Which reminds me again. Since the resin ships cannot be reused we need to collectively gang up on Msprange and get a seconds sale going.
Buy a bag of miss cast ships, random contents but all of one race.
No point throwing away models because part of them is damaged, enterprising modellers can use the rest.
 
Captain Jonah said:
When they eventually arrive my Gorn are going to be dinosaur paint jobs, shades of greens with patches, stripes etc and flashes of brighter colours.

You really should do them purple, with green flashes :lol: A Barney-Gorn fleet could be almost as cool as the Hello Kitty Space Marines
 
Alas, the "Barneys," the race of purple Gorns with tails, are extinct. Apparently they had a little ditty they sang that drove the grey, brown, and green Gorns into a homicidal rage... :shock:

Jean

(who must in all fairness note that the above is NOT the official SFU canon on the subject :))
 
I would have liked to see a little more variety added to the shape of Klingon hulls and Romulan Snipes/Eagles etc, if only to make them easier to differentiate on the tabletop..


Written by Greg smith

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I agree i would spend more time looking at the book to figure out what i am looking at on the table they look so similar its hard to tell what they are.
 
Jean said:
Alas, the "Barneys," the race of purple Gorns with tails, are extinct. Apparently they had a little ditty they sang that drove the grey, brown, and green Gorns into a homicidal rage... :shock:

Jean

(who must in all fairness note that the above is NOT the official SFU canon on the subject :))
This, on the other hand, was an official drawing. At least, it was until I made a few modifications. :twisted:
 
emperorpenguin said:
Captain Jonah said:
When they eventually arrive my Gorn are going to be dinosaur paint jobs, shades of greens with patches, stripes etc and flashes of brighter colours.

You really should do them purple, with green flashes :lol: A Barney-Gorn fleet could be almost as cool as the Hello Kitty Space Marines

Dear god even the thought of that is just so wrong. My mind, my poor mind. :shock:
Barney Gorns. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Jean said:
Alas, the "Barneys," the race of purple Gorns with tails, are extinct. Apparently they had a little ditty they sang that drove the grey, brown, and green Gorns into a homicidal rage... :shock:

Jean

(who must in all fairness note that the above is NOT the official SFU canon on the subject :))

Good job too, even the idea of a barney Gorn would drive me to murder.

Not the official cannon position then, I do hope this isn't like those damm winged cousin types the Gorn are alleged to have wiped out but they come back again like some cheesey horror movie. Cannon says the Barneys are extinct. Look out, you have wiped them out 15 times but, theeeerrrrrrrreeeeeee Bacccccck.
 
tournement play the kzintis are going to do real well against races who dont have an add trait. even just the few on fed ships is causing my gorns some headaches in the games ive been playing with my son.
 
Drahazar said:
I would have liked to see a little more variety added to the shape of Klingon hulls and Romulan Snipes/Eagles etc, if only to make them easier to differentiate on the tabletop..


Written by Greg smith

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I agree i would spend more time looking at the book to figure out what i am looking at on the table they look so similar its hard to tell what they are.

Actually you will spend very little time looking at the book figuring out what they are. The Romulan size veries enough that they stand out for what they are on the gaming table.

As far as the Klingons go the hull plating patterns makes them very destinctive from each other once you paint them.
 
Marking the base with the letter code would work well too "D7", "C7", "DW", "NCA", etc.

That is what my friends and I used to do in Battlefleet Gothic, where the main difference between most of the Imperial and Chaos cruisers and heavies is simply what weapons you slot into the side slots.
 
I like to put ship names on the bases to clearly identify them as it just sounds better to hear, 'I'm firing all phasers at the Retribution', rather than, 'I'm firing at the KR'. Of course it would sound even better to hear, 'All my phasers just missed the Retribution' but that hasn't happened yet! :lol:

Have to say I've not had any problems identifying different types of craft and I've not played a SF game before.
 
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