The T'Rakk

[H]

so then, the stats are out, read them, re-read them, then read them again just in case. I "think" i can see what they were doing, but , well I'm not convinced that the stats will sell the ship. SM is nice, especially with a boresight, non beam main weapon?! and weak guns all round. but I can see this being one of those ships that is completely and utterly in the shadows of it's fellow skirmish ships.
They would have done much better to put it at Raid, where us narnites are lacking. And WHAT is that humongous bridge?!

 

[Burger]

 

[H]

now now, I wasn't having a big whinge, I was offering an opinion on a new ship. Please offer a constructive argument to my short review, or admit it, you don't rate it either ;-)
Although in the right scenario SM might be a god send!

 

[Burger]

Yeah, jumping a couple of them behind a Prefect for example

 

[H]

with no jump engines?

 

[Burger]

"Jumping" as in SM-jumping not hyperspace
Wonder how long til we see a 10-T'Rakk fleet :lol:

It looks really good to me. Similar to a Shadow Scout except no stealth and downgraded weapon. But then it is Skirmish.

 

[H]

I suppose it doesn't fit my design philosophy, and I just don't see SM feeling right for a Narn ship of this size.
I'll try it out sometime. I guess i just hoped for more :-( it doesn't seemto have a roll like the other skirmishers

 

[DrSeltsam]

After a quick look at at the stats it seems to be a nice extension of the Narn fleet.

Boresight main weapon+SM move was a big surprise ( not even to mention SM+Narn ). Sounds like a really effective combination
Currently i see the T'Rakk as a "flanking" unit. Using its speed+SM to get behind the enemy without loosing the chance to shoot the boresight each turn ...

But what is this bridge thing on the top ?

 

[tneva82]

But what is this bridge thing on the top ?

Bridge?-)

 

[frobisher]

But what is this bridge thing on the top ?

That'll be the bridge...

On the T'Loth you don't need that, because the bridge is in the circular structure at the front.

Because the T'Rakk, in effect is one engine/weapon pod of a T'Loth, you need to add that structure because this isn't the Star Trek world of ship mods

 

[Morgoth]

I have had a chance to look at the new T'Rakk now and I don't mind it. It did surprise me with its SM ability!! It however is very similar to the ship I submitted, and they didn't do details on the T'Norr either!! Which is the slower heavier armed version and would be at raid level..

These are the stats I submitted some time ago in ancient history... I also didn't arm with particle beams instead twin partcile beams as its they are standard old and new anrn weapons as are the pulse cannons.

Early model
T’Rakk Plasma Frigate – Early T’Rakk Priority Level: Skirmish
Speed: 8 In Service: 2210+
Turns: 2/45 Craft: None
Hull: 5 Special Rules: Shuttle 1
Troops: 4
Damage: 26/6 Crew: 30/7
Weapon Range Arc AD Special
Heavy Plasma Cannon 15 B 3 AP, Double Damage
Twin-Particle Array 8 F 5 Twin-Linked, Weak
Twin-Particle Array 8 A 5 Twin-Linked, Weak
Twin-Particle Array 8 P 5 Twin-Linked, Weak
Twin-Particle Array 8 S 5 Twin-Linked, Weak


Later model
T'Rakk Class Plasma Frigate Priority Level: Skirmish
Speed: 10 In Service: 2240+
Turns: 2/45 Craft: None
Hull: 5 Special Rules: Shuttle 1
Troops: 4
Damage: 26/6 Crew: 30/7
Weapon Range Arc AD Special
Heavy Plasma Cannon 15 B 4 AP, Double Damage
Light Pulse Cannon 8 F 6
Light Pulse Cannon 8 A 6
Light Pulse Cannon 8 P 6
Light Pulse Cannon 8 S 6

 

[DrSeltsam]

But what is this bridge thing on the top ?

Bridge?-)

I also did have the impression it isn't an apricot at all :wink:
IMO it just doesn't seem to fit a "typical" Narn outfit ... it looks a little bit too big for a bridge of a skirmish ship for me.

If other people like it - that's also fine for me ... it's a free country 8)

 

[Jal]

the bridge looks far too big for the ship, a bridge half the size would look better.

 

[Morgoth]

but I can see this being one of those ships that is completely and utterly in the shadows of it's fellow skirmish ships.

I actually think this ship will see alot of use, that SM ability is actually really good!! especially in games with a short set up distance. Able to get in to weak arcs very quickly and CAF with that Heavy Plasma Cannon, nasty, it does make up for the weak secondary weaponary, so the more I think about it I can porundly say.... I like this ship and i think the minature looks pretty good too no problems with the bridge either. Just a shame about no T'Norr....

 

[H]

you could try re-submitting it?

 

[Morgoth]

i think the best I could hope for is 2nd ed entry....

 

[Reaverman]

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Like it :twisted:

 

[Burger]

I think the concept and the stats and the model are all pretty cool, but they don't really fit together.

Make a ship out of a T'Loth wing... yeah sure why not! Fits in well with the Narn philosophy.

A Narn SM ship that can outflank the enemy, get into his weak arcs... yeah sure why not! After fighting the Centauri I'm sure they realized a lot of the fanhead ships have poor rear arcs just waiting to be exploited.

But one ship filling both roles? Just doesn't seem right. A T'Loth is not famed for its speed or manouverability, it is more like a flying brick. Yet one wing when detached becomes more manouverable than a White Star?... no.

I'm all for a Narn ship with these stats, and all for a ship made from a T'Loth wing.. but they should be 2 different ships.

 

[Reaverman]

I think the concept and the stats and the model are all pretty cool, but they don't really fit together.

Make a ship out of a T'Loth wing... yeah sure why not! Fits in well with the Narn philosophy.

A Narn SM ship that can outflank the enemy, get into his weak arcs... yeah sure why not! After fighting the Centauri I'm sure they realized a lot of the fanhead ships have poor rear arcs just waiting to be exploited.

But one ship filling both roles? Just doesn't seem right. A T'Loth is not famed for its speed or manouverability, it is more like a flying brick. Yet one wing when detached becomes more manouverable than a White Star?... no.

I'm all for a Narn ship with these stats, and all for a ship made from a T'Loth wing.. but they should be 2 different ships.

The T'Loth is a honking big brick, because it an amalgam of two T'Rakks and a dodgy navigation system. Also, the T'Rakk is just all power plant, and thats it. Its a pimped reactor, with guns and thrusters

 

[Celisasu]

What's weird is that the Narn of all races have a ship capable of outmaneuvering everyone but the Vree.

This is probably a very specific use ship as opposed to the "Good for almost all occasions" Ka'Tan but at least it does have it's uses, especially against certain races. And thus the Narn dominance of skirmish continues.