2330ADUSA1 said:I would like to see it actually tested for real and see if it can work as they think.
+It's been done before. http://www.springerlink.com/content/m8q0j45487613347/?MUD=MP
2330ADUSA1 said:I would like to see it actually tested for real and see if it can work as they think.
F33D said:2330ADUSA1 said:I would like to see it actually tested for real and see if it can work as they think.
+It's been done before. http://www.springerlink.com/content/m8q0j45487613347/?MUD=MP
allanimal said:I can't actually read the article with out paying (or did I miss that link?), but the use of "gedanken", assuming German here, implies to me that it is conceptual, and not "for real". The abstract implies this as well...
F33D said:allanimal said:I can't actually read the article with out paying (or did I miss that link?), but the use of "gedanken", assuming German here, implies to me that it is conceptual, and not "for real". The abstract implies this as well...
It is real. Thrust has been measured.
In this paper we consider another suggestion from science fiction and explore how the quantum vacuum might be utilized in the creation of a novel spacecraft. The spacecraft is based on the dynamic Casimir effect, ... We also show that, in principle, one could obtain the power to operate the accelerated mirror in such a spacecraft using energy extracted from the quantum vacuum using the standard Casimir effect with a parallel plate geometry. Unfortunately the method as currently conceived generates a miniscule thrust, and is no more practical than a spacewarp, yet it does provide an interesting demonstration of our current understanding of the physics of the quantized electromagnetic field in vacuum.
allanimal said:Really? I haven't yet seen an article that states that something was actually built, tested and measured vs. just theoretical / conceptual exploring of possibilities.
rust said:There have been many experiments where the power of the
Casimir Effect has been measured, but as far as I know the-
re has never been such an experiment in space. The reason
is probably that the force generated by the Casimir Effect is
so small that there is currently no meaningful application of
a Casimir Effect propulsion system, because none of the spa-
cefaring nations is preparing a mission beyond our solar sys-
tem with a timeframe of thousands of years. And for the va-
rious missions within our solar system we have far more ef-
ficient propulsion methods, up to and including solar sails,
which also do not require fuel. Frankly, for all of our in-sys-
tem purposes even a good kick by an astronaut would acce-
lerate a space probe more efficiently than a Casimir Effect
drive.
BP said:[Of course, any military R&D would be classified - and anyone with access to such knows the potential consequences and what rights they have given up for access to such. :roll: ]
BP said:Which is why no one with actual knowledge would even allude to there being any details to publish :roll: