Lieutenant Rasczak
Mongoose
gorkamorka said:
Don't you think you should learn some manners.
There was no need for that, none at all.
Should the MI use tanks
- Thread starter MaxSteiner
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Don't you think you should learn some manners.
There was no need for that, none at all.
Lieutenant Rasczak
Mongoose
cOwgummi said:
"I'm just a Hate Machine" isn't that an outdated Disco Hit LMAO!
We fans may disagree, but we do stick together Lol!
Lieutenant Rasczak
Mongoose
Hiromoon said:
"Dropped like a Hot Coal" more like . . . . .
Okay... let's see
Exosuits:
12 hours of air
48 hours duration for environmental regulations
12 hours of battery-life with an addition hour from a back-up battery
M1A4 & M1A5 (standard trooper and engineer armor):
8 hours of air (with an additional hour in a reserve tank)
24 hours duration for environmental regulations
8 hours of battery-life with an additional hour from a back-up battery
M1A6 (Pathfinder armor):
10 hours of air (with an additional hour in a reserve tank)
24 hours duration for environmental regulations
10 hours of battery-life with an additional hour from a back-up battery
Fuel reserves for jump jet range:
Exosuit - 1,500 feet max range before needing recharge
M1A4 - 1,000 feet max range before needing recharge
M1A5 - 800 feet max range before needing recharge
M1A6 - 1,000 feet max range before needing recharge
Speed of Jump Jets (Approximate)
M1A4 - 10 MPH
M1A5 - 09 MPH
M1A6 - 10 MPH
Exosuit - 21 MPH
Exosuits:
12 hours of air
48 hours duration for environmental regulations
12 hours of battery-life with an addition hour from a back-up battery
M1A4 & M1A5 (standard trooper and engineer armor):
8 hours of air (with an additional hour in a reserve tank)
24 hours duration for environmental regulations
8 hours of battery-life with an additional hour from a back-up battery
M1A6 (Pathfinder armor):
10 hours of air (with an additional hour in a reserve tank)
24 hours duration for environmental regulations
10 hours of battery-life with an additional hour from a back-up battery
Fuel reserves for jump jet range:
Exosuit - 1,500 feet max range before needing recharge
M1A4 - 1,000 feet max range before needing recharge
M1A5 - 800 feet max range before needing recharge
M1A6 - 1,000 feet max range before needing recharge
Speed of Jump Jets (Approximate)
M1A4 - 10 MPH
M1A5 - 09 MPH
M1A6 - 10 MPH
Exosuit - 21 MPH
Makoto
Mongoose
On the other hand missions that seldom require more than 3-4 hours of field time, and air assets taking care of long-range redeployments (meaning even LAMIs won't be able to utilise tanks well without massive logistic problems). Nope, imo still tanks are better left as a support for garrizons on low-tech worlds.
It's a lot simpler to re-do the RPG, those ranges are foolish and utterly contrary to the spirit of the Novel - the real/best source.
As I said on a different page, I understand the appeal of Tanks and such ... but that's that Other Game ... it's already been done ... I'm not even above "stealing" a piece now and then but really, Tanks aren't SST.
It's pretty clear the Heinlein universe is 'different', it's not Ogre/GEV or Battletech or 40K, etc. etc.
The proposal of a Mobile Recharger is not beyond the pale, neither are some vehicles used by guys who don't qualify for PAMI - maybe the colonial sheriffs have a SWAT-carrier, whatever. Remember, Earth has been at peace for Generations, thanks to the new world order brought by the Citizens.
As I said on a different page, I understand the appeal of Tanks and such ... but that's that Other Game ... it's already been done ... I'm not even above "stealing" a piece now and then but really, Tanks aren't SST.
It's pretty clear the Heinlein universe is 'different', it's not Ogre/GEV or Battletech or 40K, etc. etc.
The proposal of a Mobile Recharger is not beyond the pale, neither are some vehicles used by guys who don't qualify for PAMI - maybe the colonial sheriffs have a SWAT-carrier, whatever. Remember, Earth has been at peace for Generations, thanks to the new world order brought by the Citizens.
Gauntlet-
Banded Mongoose
I don't think anyone has a problem with alien's using tanks... and notably I see no reason to not use 'hover' tanks, which if advanced enough to qualify in terms of armor and firepower would be just as mobile as the MI, and far less vulnerable to the bugs.
But nobody really likes hovertanks as much as good ol fashioned tanks.
That being said, Im against the idea of a main battletank for the MI... even a hover one, I just yield that a hover one would make much much more sense.
It could be new tech too, retro-engineered from skinny speeders.
But nobody really likes hovertanks as much as good ol fashioned tanks.
That being said, Im against the idea of a main battletank for the MI... even a hover one, I just yield that a hover one would make much much more sense.
It could be new tech too, retro-engineered from skinny speeders.
Makoto said:
Well, the whole garrison thing is what I've been saying. In addition to that, remember that Air Assets aren't always available due to an enemy species' AA capabilities (like the Arachnid's Plasma Bug). Transitioning LAMI forces from point A to point B without Air Assets would necessitate a whole logistical tail.
I mean, look at the numbers I worked out for the powered armor guys. If you get stuck in a prolonged fire fight without any viable way to get resupplied from the air, armored vehicles are a better vet, even with heavy support equipment.
No one said the Germans were talking about their own people. In the case of the Russians I'm certain they were happy to get any casualties with them. 
Anyway, I digress. There's different tactical advantages and disadvantages to what we were talking about, and it depends mostly on the mission parameters to determine which is better at any given time.
Anyway, I digress. There's different tactical advantages and disadvantages to what we were talking about, and it depends mostly on the mission parameters to determine which is better at any given time.