Ships of Gold Update, and Teaser.

wbnc

Cosmic Mongoose
Putting the art in place. So far it looks like The book will be over 200 pages, with over forty ships. Multiple variants of several classes of vessel. estimated completion one to two weeks.

andfor those of you who might need a nice richmans plaything for tha up and coming noble, or successful businessman. The Kulyat Yacht may fill the bill.

sleek styling, comfortable accommodations for you and 20 of your closest friends.with deluxe entertainment facilities library, office and a kitchen suitable for a five-star restaurant.At 500 tons your new vessel will be the envy of the Y-type rabble. Impress your peers, and woo new customers in comfort and security. Contact your nearest A class shipyard for further information.

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Very nice. I like the sleek lines.

The larger lower wings seem to serve no function, however. The upper ones could be in-atmosphere control surfaces, but even if not they don't detract from the overall look.
 
phavoc said:
Very nice. I like the sleek lines.

The larger lower wings seem to serve no function, however. The upper ones could be in-atmosphere control surfaces, but even if not they don't detract from the overall look.


In this case, the 'wings" have the same function as the Fins on an old Cadillac "Not much". the ship looks a little odd to me without the wings so I added them. I thought a few "go fasts" were acceptable. It is a Yacht after all.
 
Reynard said:

The forward ones would be canards for sure. But the rearmost lower ones don't fall within the definition of them. They aren't forward control surfaces and they aren't part of a wing, though the upper ones attached to the body of the ship are.

wbnc said:
phavoc said:
Very nice. I like the sleek lines.

The larger lower wings seem to serve no function, however. The upper ones could be in-atmosphere control surfaces, but even if not they don't detract from the overall look.


In this case, the 'wings" have the same function as the Fins on an old Cadillac "Not much". the ship looks a little odd to me without the wings so I added them. I thought a few "go fasts" were acceptable. It is a Yacht after all.

As we've seen from the 50's fins on cars can be cool, and then along came the Edsel and ruined it for everyone! :)

But on a more serious note, it's not that decorations are a bad thing. And while it IS a yacht, and thus does not have to follow the normal design rules of form vs. function, those winglets/radiators/fins would still require clearance for ground and space docking. Now if they were retractable or foldable (like wings and tails on carrier aircraft, or say the configuration changes you saw in the SW shuttle, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue.
 
"The forward ones would be canards for sure. But the rearmost lower ones don't fall within the definition of them"

Sorry, I should have specified the forward ones are a form of canards.
 
phavoc said:
Reynard said:

The forward ones would be canards for sure. But the rearmost lower ones don't fall within the definition of them. They aren't forward control surfaces and they aren't part of a wing, though the upper ones attached to the body of the ship are.

wbnc said:
phavoc said:
Very nice. I like the sleek lines.

The larger lower wings seem to serve no function, however. The upper ones could be in-atmosphere control surfaces, but even if not they don't detract from the overall look.


In this case, the 'wings" have the same function as the Fins on an old Cadillac "Not much". the ship looks a little odd to me without the wings so I added them. I thought a few "go fasts" were acceptable. It is a Yacht after all.

As we've seen from the 50's fins on cars can be cool, and then along came the Edsel and ruined it for everyone! :)

But on a more serious note, it's not that decorations are a bad thing. And while it IS a yacht, and thus does not have to follow the normal design rules of form vs. function, those winglets/radiators/fins would still require clearance for ground and space docking. Now if they were retractable or foldable (like wings and tails on carrier aircraft, or say the configuration changes you saw in the SW shuttle, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue.

Hmmmmmm...ya got a point there... great thing about feedback before hand I can tweak things before i get loads of gripes after the fact...although i am sure my first try at publishing will result in plenty of those :D

I adjusted the angle of the wings so that the ship can land without them being in the way when I did the original model so that it could land without issues.it has multiple secondary craft for transport between ship and a Highport as well so if it cant dock they can hop in the Ships boat and putter over.

Most of my winged ships the wings are fully functional and provide lift and control. and I try to position airlocks so they can dock fairly easily.

the T-21 design I have is basically a supersized shuttle with J-2 range. I put an airlock on the dorsal surface so it can roll over and mate against a station or vessel. the others are not cargo ships and designed to operate in an atmosphere on a regular basis so they don't suffer the same problems. but jus to be sure i put airlocks or breaching tubes on the bottom of the ships. I doubt anyone is going to try to put a 300 ton hunter-killer in a hanger bay. a 200 ton J-2 Hauler might be small enough to use a large hanger on a Highport though.

One problem I have ran into is that too keep the page count down I had to trim some of the descriptions which lead to a few features not being described in detail...If I went into the sort of detail I like eyes would glaze over and the page count would be about 50% higher :D
 
wbnc said:
the T-21 design I have is basically a supersized shuttle with J-2 range. I put an airlock on the dorsal surface so it can roll over and mate against a station or vessel. the others are not cargo ships and designed to operate in an atmosphere on a regular basis so they don't suffer the same problems. but jus to be sure i put airlocks or breaching tubes on the bottom of the ships. I doubt anyone is going to try to put a 300 ton hunter-killer in a hanger bay. a 200 ton J-2 Hauler might be small enough to use a large hanger on a Highport though.

One problem I have ran into is that too keep the page count down I had to trim some of the descriptions which lead to a few features not being described in detail...If I went into the sort of detail I like eyes would glaze over and the page count would be about 50% higher :D

Since I assume you are publishing an electronic version of your supplement, have you given any thought of breaking it up into a Vol 1 and Vol 2? There is probably a logical way to do this (Mil/Civ, type, etc) that would allow you to retain greater descriptions without sacrificing anything.

You could also test things with your audience by publishing some single designs - one is the more complete verbose version, while one is the more stripped down one. And see what your customers prefer. Or, as others done, publish a free teaser of two designs and ask specifically for feedback.
 
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