Ship's Fabricator

[rinku]

Well, they're not strictly speaking *incompatible*. CSC just mentions a couple of points that RHB omits. In both publications a TL13 fab is only capable of simple biomechanical prints, with full organisms being grown in bioreaction chambers rather than fabricated. It can fabricate an organ but not a person. The TL17 version can, though. You need a chamber double the volume of the fabricated object in both.

I'd just put it down to RHB being all about slots. CSC doesn't use Robot Slots as a unit, so expressing chamber size in chamber litres is better there. CSC does provide a conversion. As far as I can see, the CSC entry is the full description, with RHB being a subset.

RHB is fine if what you are printing are other robots, or small items. If you need industrial size or external fabricators, CSC is better framed.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Well, they're not strictly speaking *incompatible*. CSC just mentions a couple of points that RHB omits. In both publications a TL13 fab is only capable of simple biomechanical prints, with full organisms being grown in bioreaction chambers rather than fabricated. It can fabricate an organ but not a person. The TL17 version can, though. You need a chamber double the volume of the fabricated object in both.

I'd just put it down to RHB being all about slots. CSC doesn't use Robot Slots as a unit, so expressing chamber size in chamber litres is better there. CSC does provide a conversion. As far as I can see, the CSC entry is the full description, with RHB being a subset.

RHB is fine if what you are printing are other robots, or small items. If you need industrial size or external fabricators, CSC is better framed.

So... How many chamber liters are in a Dton?

 

[Terry Mixon]

So... How many chamber liters are in a Dton?

14,000. 1,000 liters (same as chamber liter) in a cubic meter.

 

[MasterGwydion]

14,000. 1,000 liters (same as chamber liter) in a cubic meter.

1 liter is 1 kilogram of water
1 kilogram of hydrogen is 11,200ish liters or 11.2ish m3

So how much volume is a dton? Still doesn't match up.

 

[rinku]

Robot slots are a bit of a flexible unit, but CSC goes with 1.5 chamber litres = 1 slot (CSC p8). Keeping in mind the chamber needs to be double that to fabricate, that seems to be where the 3L per slot figure in RHB comes from.

And check your source. I get the same 11.2 figure from AI, but Wikipedia says 14.1.

I know which one I would trust better. But it may be pressure and temperature related.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Robot slots are a bit of a flexible unit, but CSC goes with 1.5 chamber litres = 1 slot (CSC p8). Keeping in mind the chamber needs to be double that to fabricate, that seems to be where the 3L per slot figure in RHB comes from.

And check your source. I get the same 11.2 figure from AI, but Wikipedia says 14.1.

I know which one I would trust better. But it may be pressure and temperature related.

This is how I know I am old. I am missing My hardcover textbooks...

 

[Terry Mixon]

1 liter is 1 kilogram of water
1 kilogram of hydrogen is 11,200ish liters or 11.2ish m3

So how much volume is a dton? Still doesn't match up.

A litre is a cubic decimetre, which is the volume of a cube 10 centimetres × 10 centimetres × 10 centimetres (1 L ≡ 1 dm3 ≡ 1000 cm3). Hence 1 L ≡ 0.001 m3 ≡ 1000 cm3; and 1 m3 (i.e. a cubic metre, which is the SI unit for volume) is exactly 1000 L.

That gives precise measurements. 1,000 liters volume per cubic meter. 14,000 liters per dton.

 

[rinku]

That's why the rest of the world can tell you the weight of a litre of milk. How many pounds does a pint of milk weigh? A gallon?

 

[MonsterX]

That's why the rest of the world can tell you the weight of a litre of milk. How many pounds does a pint of milk weigh? A gallon?

1 lbs. -but only because beer comes in pints/half litres, depending on country of origen, so basically an issue I have to confront daily when eating my cornflakes. Second question: 4 1/2 lbs, or wait, that's kilos...sooo.... ummm 10 lbs round about? Off the top of my head.

 

[rinku]

Precisely. Or rather, not