Ship Design Philosophy

[Condottiere]

Spacecraft: Cargo

A. Ten kilogrammes is about one hundred forty thousand cubic centimetres.

B. That's a tad over three carry on bags.

C. For low berths, a manny bag should be enough.

D. You could allocate a cubic metre of luggage, packed in a cubic metre locker.

E. Plus, one free weapons locker.

F. I suppose, the manny pack you can take with you, in the freezer.

 

[Condottiere]

Spacecraft: Cargo

G. Middle passage supposedly has an allowance of a hundred kilogrammes.

H. I'd say, that would be carry on luggage.

I. Give them two suitcases, plus a coat, an umbrella, and a laptop case or handbag.

J. Of course, a free weapons locker.

K. Suitcases could be stored underneath the bunk.

 

[Condottiere]

Speaking of Onedin Line, one way to, financially, at least, get a merchantman, free and clear, through attachedment to ye ball and chain.

 

[Condottiere]

Spacecraft: Cargo

L. Since there are levels above high passage, I don't think we need to give them a full tonne for luggage.

M. If a high passage holder wants to to ship his luggage as freight, he can pay for the cargo space.

N. Carry on luggage can be double that of a middle passage.

O. Two trunks or four suitcases, and whatever they are carrying on their person.

P. Plus, two weapon lockers.

 

[Condottiere]

Spacecraft: Cargo

Q. Once we get past the default four tonne stateroom, we get to suites.

R. The features and luxurious outlays for them, would be customized to the specific spaceliner offering them, and possibly, to the spacefic spacecraft.

S. Secretarial Suite might be the premium description, within the Confederation.

T. Followed by Security Suite, for those who want to enjoy the feeling of a comfortable maternal embrace.

U. The Admiralty Suite, for those who feel they deserve more luxurious surroundings.

 

[Condottiere]

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The Russians may be on to something - you conscript late middle agers, and you potentially save on their potential medical bills and pensions.

True, you do have to offer a very attractive sign up bonus, but chances are that these get reinvested in the younger generation, which essentially is a win win, in the sense that productive tax payers get a boost.

In Traveller, you won't get a new rejuvenated body, but anagathics, stimulants, and augmentations, at the high end.

Just a redshirt, at the other end of the stick.

 

[rinku]

Not sure where 10kg equating to 140,000 cm3 came from, but if we're talking water, that's only 10,000 cm3 by definition (10 litres).
Something with a density of about 0.07 that of water would take up 140,000 cm3.

10kg is hand luggage. Small backpack maybe.

 

[Condottiere]

Depends on interpretation.

I chose hull tonnage volume.

Before they enforced seven kilogrammes for carryon, I used to stuff my backpack with hard drives, and for a medium sized one, you can easily hit twenty kilogrammes.

So, I'd say ten kilogrammes would be a gym bag or medium sized rucksack, plus laptop bag.

However, I'd say give the low berthers a one metre cubic locker, where they can stuff in whatever fits.

 

[rinku]

One cubic metre locker is far too generous. Just give 'em a post box sized one.

 

[Condottiere]

My feeling is that the weight allocated in the rulebooks is customary within the Imperium.

Whether it's regulated or not, I would say is if it's clearly spelled out in the ticket that the Traveller bought.

Since in our game, passage tickets tend to default to the rule book, that's the accepted baggage allowance.

I tend to think that the low berthers are more likely to drag along their meager belongings, and less so to buy local tee shirts and shorts.

 

[rinku]

I agree. Probably each low berth usually has a small locker, but an array of them might be set up on one wall of the freezer room.

Middle passage gets enough baggage allowance to fill a stateroom cupboard. But it's still a small fraction of a displacement ton.

High passage actually gets a ton of cargo space to do with as they see fit. That's actually clear.

 

[Condottiere]

Very true,

But, that seems more customary.

If you can pay for high passage, you can also pay for a tonne of freight.

One vision I had, was you have large trunks that could be set up as mobile closets, which is why you see that diddle daddling over suitcases and trunks, above.

In a way, I think that Travellers are going to want a certain mobility with their baggage, and access to them, hence carryon, compared to stuff that they only need access to at destination, which could be consigned to the cargo hold.

 

[rinku]

Valet droid. Most of the chassis is wardrobe.

Take it to the next level at higher techs and have it print you out a fresh outfit each time, while recyling the used one.

 

[Condottiere]

My aunt once bought a make up/costume/stage trunk, and I had a look.

More organized than a sea trunk, which I would suppose someone who takes a professional interest in their appearance, would likely take along as they travel.

 

[rinku]

For sure.

And actual droids aside, I'd expect a techy version of a steamer trunk to at the very least be self mobile and take voice commands. Certainly by the TL12 default average.

Readout of how much mass it is. That would be handy.

Maybe able to pack itself?

 

[Condottiere]

Mini grappling arms.

The two tonne one has a capacity of two tonnes, and a quarter kilometre reach,.

 

[boggo2300]

My aunt once bought a make up/costume/stage trunk, and I had a look.

More organized than a sea trunk, which I would suppose someone who takes a professional interest in their appearance, would likely take along as they travel.

My parents had a Sea Trunk when I was young (from when the emigrated from Europe in 1954) It was both Huge and compartmentalised so that when vertical and opened (about 90 degrees from lid to base) it was pretty much a wardrobe, it took two people, straining to carry it, but it contained enough storage for my parents, and my four eldest siblings for the roughly month it took them to get from the Netherlands to Australia

On this ship http://ssmaritime.com/sibajak1.htm

 

[Condottiere]

I think that you're going to have mobile wardrobes the size of fridges.

I certainly wouldn't want to move them, since occupational safety would cap my participation at thirty kilogrammes, and airlines at twenty five.

You're also going to want to install one in your stateroom.

My feeling is we lack the imagination as to how this going to look like in three millenia.

 

[boggo2300]

I think that you're going to have mobile wardrobes the size of fridges.

I certainly wouldn't want to move them, since occupational safety would cap my participation at thirty kilogrammes, and airlines at twenty five.

You're also going to want to install one in your stateroom.

My feeling is we lack the imagination as to how this going to look like in three millenia.

If they are TL-9 or higher (or even upper TL-8 for the rich) they would be grav-assisted travel trunks, moveable with the touch of a finger...

 

[Condottiere]

Spacecraft: Cargo

V. One issue that could come up, is, if you don't have enough cargo to fill the holds.

W. I remember, a long while ago, when only private buses roamed the local landscape, that the bus driver didn't leave the terminal, until his conductor had a certain capacity filled.

X. With external cargo, you could cut your losses, and just tone down gas use.

Y. Sort of screwed with internal cargo holds.

Z. But, you could fill those with fuel, which is always used in some form.