PrinceYyrkoon
Mongoose
Hate to be cynical but...
Expect a 2.1 version spring 2010...
Expect a 2.1 version spring 2010...
Runequest 2?
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RosenMcStern
Mongoose
Leather bound? Is it trollkin leather, at least?
tarkhan bey
Mongoose
I dunno about this. The amount of money that I have spent on Mongoose products over the last five or six years has been pretty high. I would expect that this edition would need to come with a cast iron guarantee that its been properly proofread and that all the internal inconsistencies and niggles have been addressed. Even with that, I would probably have to read a review of it and wait several months before making a new commitment. 
PrinceYyrkoon
Mongoose
tarkhan bey said:I dunno about this. The amount of money that I have spent on Mongoose products over the last five or six years has been pretty high. I would expect that this edition would need to come with a cast iron guarantee that its been properly proofread and that all the internal inconsistencies and niggles have been addressed. Even with that, I would probably have to read a review of it and wait several months before making a new commitment.
:lol: A nice mixture of optimism and caution!
tarkhan bey
Mongoose
Yrkoon, I reckon that caution is a good thing in the current economic climate. I have a finger in too many Mongoose pies at the moment to "drop my drawers" at the first sign of a leather bound edition. :lol:
I have asked over on the Conan forum about the future of Elric and Hawkmoon licenses. Don't know if you have noticed a distinct lack of forthcoming releases on that front as well. :roll:
Given your "moniker", I am probably right in assuming that this is a line that is also close to your heart.
Of course, it is possible, that they are waiting to get the French release schedule up to date before unleashing new material in two languages.
I have asked over on the Conan forum about the future of Elric and Hawkmoon licenses. Don't know if you have noticed a distinct lack of forthcoming releases on that front as well. :roll:
Given your "moniker", I am probably right in assuming that this is a line that is also close to your heart.
Of course, it is possible, that they are waiting to get the French release schedule up to date before unleashing new material in two languages.
PrinceYyrkoon
Mongoose
tarkhan bey said:Yrkoon, I reckon that caution is a good thing in the current economic climate. I have a finger in too many Mongoose pies at the moment to "drop my drawers" at the first sign of a leather bound edition. :lol:
I have asked over on the Conan forum about the future of Elric and Hawkmoon licenses. Don't know if you have noticed a distinct lack of forthcoming releases on that front as well. :roll:
Given your "moniker", I am probably right in assuming that this is a line that is also close to your heart.
Of course, it is possible, that they are waiting to get the French release schedule up to date before unleashing new material in two languages.
Yes. I wasnt disagreeing, I just found it amusing that you seem to have the same cynicism I have when it comes to games companies.
I have invested quite heavily in the Conan rpg, Paranoia, Slaine and MRQ to the tune of what must be, er, quite a lot of money. So far, I have resisted Elric and Hawkmoon, not because I dont want them, its that I cant justify the expenditure. I already have Chaosiums Stormbringer, Hawkmoon and (Darksyde) Corum. But the time is probably coming when I weaken. I can feel myself weakening over Traveller too.
I dont think theres any reason to think that theres a problem with the Moorcock licence. I dont think its all doom and gloom for Mongoose at all. Hawkmoon is just small fry in comparison to Elric or Conan. Hawkmoon is not going to make anyone a millionaire. Hence, the slow output for the system. I would think, too, that the Elric game isnt a huge seller, because Chaosium have just recently stopped producing Stormbringer, and I guess there are a lot of people like me, who have the Chaosium stuff, and have, so far resisted Mongooses version.
Another reason, I suppose, is that they can only do so much. I reckon a lot of energy has been expended on a revitalisation of Conan, and the new edition of Runequest. And, it seems likely, that there can be no further supplements for Elric or Hawkmoon, when the engine is going through a massive overhaul.
So, no, I dont think theres a problem with the Moorcock stuff, I think there will be more books in 2010.
RosenMcStern
Mongoose
The King said:
Dream Dragon? :shock: Don't even suggest this. Dream Dragon bodies disappear after their death - although several years after - so you would eventually have to rebuy the rules.
tarkhan bey
Mongoose
No problem man, I think that you and I are mostly on the same wavelength as well.
I have all the stuff for the EC gaming line down the years as well. I reckon that this version does Elric the most justice in its interpretation of the magic system though I think I prefer the BRP combat system from Elric and Stormbringer 5ed.
I even have the GW hardback edition and a handful of the mini's from way back when.......
I was a little disappointed in the Darksyde version of Corum, to the extent that I never bothered to run it. Did you ever use it and how did it go?
I have all the stuff for the EC gaming line down the years as well. I reckon that this version does Elric the most justice in its interpretation of the magic system though I think I prefer the BRP combat system from Elric and Stormbringer 5ed.
I even have the GW hardback edition and a handful of the mini's from way back when.......
I was a little disappointed in the Darksyde version of Corum, to the extent that I never bothered to run it. Did you ever use it and how did it go?
PrinceYyrkoon
Mongoose
tarkhan bey said:
Me too. Never ran it. We had greater success with Chaosiums Hawkmoon. I know it was very 'bare bones', but it was fun. I liked the simple skill solution to a potentially complex problem, in the skills of Elecritcal, Biological, Chemical and Machine Lore. Really elegant design. And they really worked.
Does the Mongoose version retain these?
tarkhan bey
Mongoose
No, they didn't retain those.Its a pity, because I agree that those tables were a very simple and elegant way of dealing with those skills. I do intend to retain them for my current Hawkmoon campaign, but none of my characters are remotely inclined towards using science/sorcery.
In the 'goose edition of Hawkmoon, Science and sorcery seem to be inextricably linked and indivisible. It works along the same lines as standard MRQ sorcery except that many of the spells are different.
Blasting-for example-from the Granbretan sourcebook does a certain amount of damage per magic point invested in the casting of the spell. The blasting compound created is completely up to the user. I like to think that at lower mp levels the sorceror/scientist is making black powder of varying degrees of impurity right up to a similar compound to SEMTEX at very high levels. A character with high Lore(chemistry),engineering and mechanisms skills could concievably invent a mercury tilt switch. Its all pretty much open to your interpretation.
In the game currently, there is an NPC(my own) in the Kamarg who uses this spell along with his knowledge of mechanisms and woodworking to make wheel lock pistols. He is keen to present these to Count Brass who is known for purchasing exotic weaponry.
Compared to Flamelances, however, they are quite primitive and he might well be better approaching some less wealthy ruler for patronage.
In the 'goose edition of Hawkmoon, Science and sorcery seem to be inextricably linked and indivisible. It works along the same lines as standard MRQ sorcery except that many of the spells are different.
Blasting-for example-from the Granbretan sourcebook does a certain amount of damage per magic point invested in the casting of the spell. The blasting compound created is completely up to the user. I like to think that at lower mp levels the sorceror/scientist is making black powder of varying degrees of impurity right up to a similar compound to SEMTEX at very high levels. A character with high Lore(chemistry),engineering and mechanisms skills could concievably invent a mercury tilt switch. Its all pretty much open to your interpretation.
In the game currently, there is an NPC(my own) in the Kamarg who uses this spell along with his knowledge of mechanisms and woodworking to make wheel lock pistols. He is keen to present these to Count Brass who is known for purchasing exotic weaponry.
Compared to Flamelances, however, they are quite primitive and he might well be better approaching some less wealthy ruler for patronage.
RosenMcStern
Mongoose
Wait for the new Third Age Sartar book from Moon Design to be available. It is very easy to adapt it to RQ, even if it is for HeroQuest.
RosenMcStern
Mongoose
The King said:
Don't be so sure about that. Things might be changing in the future
As for the Sartar release, MD has not given a date yet, but basically they are putting the artwork in. As BlackYinkin is their Art Director and usually reads these boards, maybe he can tell us more.
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