Q on Rapid fire and Antimatter

[JRB_Dulgan]

I have been looking through the CSC and there are several weapons that have the Rapid fire rule. But I am not sure just how this is supposed to work. It seems some have two autofire ratings, so I get that, but others do not.

Am I just missing something?

Also on the antimatter power plant, a power plant runs both the jdrive and mdrive, so as I read it. You do not need to assign all that dtonnage to fuel, correct?


Thanks for the help.

 

[DFW]

Also on the antimatter power plant, a power plant runs both the jdrive and mdrive, so as I read it. You do not need to assign all that dtonnage to fuel, correct?


Thanks for the help.

J-Drive fuel is for the "bubble" not for power.

 

[Rikki Tikki Traveller]

DFW, I do not believe the MGT rules specifically state that Jump Fuel is used for a Bubble.

TMB Page 141 states that "To Jump, a ship creates a bubble of hyperspace by means of injecting high-energy exotic particles into an artificial singularity."

There is NO mention that the 10% of the ship's tonnage in hydrogen is used to create the bubble. According to MGT it is used to create the exotic particles that create the jump bubble.

So and Anti-matter fuel would create those exotic particles by matter-antimatter interaction, not with hydrogen and might use a lot less fuel. How much less, is left as an exercise to the Referee...

Doing a bit of research, Fusion is about 0.1% efficient and matter-antimatter is about 50% efficient, so you would need about 1/500 of the fuel (which basically makes it negligible in most size ships).

Older versions of Traveller mentioned a Jump Bubble of Hydrogen and the use of a Jump Grid, but neither of these things are mentioned in MGT.

 

[DFW]

DFW, I do not believe the MGT rules specifically state that Jump Fuel is used for a Bubble.

It appears that you have a defective copy of the rule book. In mine, if you continue reading in the same paragraph you quoted from: "The singularity is driven out of our universe, creating a tiny parallel universe which is then blown up like a balloon by injecting hydrogen into it."

You might want to get a refund or replacement book.

 

[rust]

According to my German version of the Mongoose Traveller core rules,
the process to prepare for a jump looks like this:

1) An artificial singularity is created. ( :shock: )
2) High energy exotic particles are sent into the singularity.
3) The singularity is removed from our universe and creates a tiny
parallel universe ( :shock: ).
4) Hydrogen is sent into this tiny parallel universe to expand it ( :shock: ).
5) The jump bubble is formed around the ship and carries it into the
expanded parallel universe ( :shock: ).

So at TL 9 there is the technology to create artificial singularities, remove
them into a parallel universe and transfer matter from our universe into
a parallel universe.

I guess I will continue to use a hyperdrive instead of attempting to explain
that to the players, the creation of an artificial wormhole seems not much
of an achievement compared to what the jump drive does.

 

[DFW]

So at TL 9 there is the technology to create artificial singularities, removethem into a parallel universe and transfer matter from our universe into a parallel universe.

That's how you store all the provisions & spare parts that aren't accounted for in the ships tonnage.

 

[rust]

That's how you store all the provisions & spare parts that aren't accounted for in the ships tonnage.

Ah, another one of Traveller's mysteries is solved. :lol:

 

[iainjcoleman]

DFW, I do not believe the MGT rules specifically state that Jump Fuel is used for a Bubble.

It appears that you have a defective copy of the rule book. In mine, if you continue reading in the same paragraph you quoted from: "The singularity is driven out of our universe, creating a tiny parallel universe which is then blown up like a balloon by injecting hydrogen into it."

You might want to get a refund or replacement book.

No need to BACAI.

 

[rust]

BACAI

Just out of curiosity: The only Bacais I have found with Google are the
president of Guinea Bissau and a place in Ethiopia, and I doubt that is
what you mean ?

 

[Charakan]

I wondered about BACAI as well, its a new internet acronym thingy to me.

 

[rinku]

Must be something the young folks are doing...

I assume it has negative connotations from the context. I agree that DFW could have been more polite. You can point out stuff in the rules that people have missed without being that sarcastic.

 

[DFW]

. I agree that DFW could have been more polite. You can point out stuff in the rules that people have missed without being that sarcastic.

I wasn't being sarcastic. I thought the paragraph in his book ended where he left off.

 

[iainjcoleman]

BACAI

Just out of curiosity: The only Bacais I have found with Google are the
president of Guinea Bissau and a place in Ethiopia, and I doubt that is
what you mean ?

Explanation here

 

[rust]

Thank you - very interesting.

 

[rinku]

Hah! Nailed it in one

 

[Charakan]

Thank you Mr Coleman, a new one to add to the list .

 

[Rikki Tikki Traveller]

DFW, I do not believe the MGT rules specifically state that Jump Fuel is used for a Bubble.

It appears that you have a defective copy of the rule book. In mine, if you continue reading in the same paragraph you quoted from: "The singularity is driven out of our universe, creating a tiny parallel universe which is then blown up like a balloon by injecting hydrogen into it."

You might want to get a refund or replacement book.

BLOODY HELL!

I wasn't trying to be snarky, I honestly missed that; even when I read it again, before posting my quote.

I will shut up now!

 

[DFW]

BLOODY HELL!

I wasn't trying to be snarky, I honestly missed that; even when I read it again, before posting my quote.

I will shut up now!

Rikki, I didn't take it as snarky at all. I really thought the your copy had the paragraph cut off. But, there is still a problem with the rules. Is the PP fuel powering the J Drive (PP rating has to match J Drive rating) or, does some of the J fuel get "burned" and part get used to inflate bubble? It is murky at best. Flip a coin?

 

[JRB_Dulgan]

I am just more confused. What would be the real advantage of an antimatter PP? Save the couple of tons that the powerplant requires to operate for the normal (2 week if I remember clearly). Sorry I don't have my books infront of me. And isn't the antimatter PP more wieght then the normal one (double??).

 

[BP]

Core pg 109 has the fuel requirements - the AM P.P. uses no tonnage for 4 wks - so that can add up to a nice tonnage savings (though the cost of fuel is quite a bit higher).

HG pg 63 states Antimatter plants are the same size and are only available from TL 17.

IMTU, I half the dtons and also add an AM processor (makes up the missing dtons), as AM availability would be extremely rare. It is very inefficient (slow and must provide its own fusion power), though can use unprocessed hydrogen/ice/ammonia...