I've had the Fleet Book for 2nd edition pretty much since it came out but I never looked closely at the Narn. As I'm picking up some Narn now before I can't get them any more I noticed that the G'Vrahn picture in the book is different from the G'Vrahn available on the Iron Wind Metals site. I don't remember it ever being brought up but it's been a while since it 2nd edition was released. So which one is the correct one?
Pictures in the Fleet Book
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mikelosaurus
Mongoose
Delthos said:
They're both correct. It's just that Iron Wind did a new sculpt for them (which I think look terrible).
Before they disappeared, Mongoose's pictures of their miniatures included two versions of the G'Vrahn, one labelled the G'Vrahn prototype. This is what Iron Wind are showing on their website. It has a "336" catalogue number, indicating a model made from an original Mongoose mould which wasn't too bad. A "66" number, e.g. the G'Quan, indicates a remastered mould. You'd have to ask Iron Wind why they're using the prototype version, but at a guess, they got hold of both moulds and the prototype one, being less heavily used, produces better models.
The version in the Fleet Book is the other version, the one which Mongoose put into production.
The version in the Fleet Book is the other version, the one which Mongoose put into production.
Has anyone actually bought one from Iron Wind. I've assumed that they used the wrong photo. (Did e-mail them last Christmas about it but never received a reply)
If I remember right the Armegeddon Book G'vrahn, (i.e the Ironwind posted version) looked to be quite a hefty piece of metal.
The Ironwind price doesn't seem right in that case.
Would be interested in buying some since always prefered the original design. Don't want any more resculpted versions howver.
If I remember right the Armegeddon Book G'vrahn, (i.e the Ironwind posted version) looked to be quite a hefty piece of metal.
The Ironwind price doesn't seem right in that case.
Would be interested in buying some since always prefered the original design. Don't want any more resculpted versions howver.
mikelosaurus
Mongoose
Kickaha said:
I'd be interested to know. I could do with another one from the book, but I'm not buying the montrosity (prototype or not) that IW are using the for the picture.
Well I just wanted to update everyone on this. I went ahead and ordered two of the Iron Wind Metals G'Vrahns. Well it turns out they are using the wrong picture. They have the prototype photo up on their site, but they are actually selling the one pictured in the Fleet Book. So that's the catamaran style one and not the one similar to the G'Quan. Oh well, I really would have liked to get one of the prototype style, but you can't have everything!
HowardDevore
Mongoose
Heh Not as bad as their Drakh Patrol cruiser, which while priced correctly shows the pic for a Strike cruiser.
Foxmeister
Mongoose
Delthos said:
Well, you can if you were the person who picked up the prototype G'Vrahn when Mongoose had their Ebay clearout..... which I was!
It really is a lovely model - far bigger, heavier, and more menacing that what actually tipped up as the production model.
Regards,
Dave
Foxmeister said:Delthos said:
Well, you can if you were the person who picked up the prototype G'Vrahn when Mongoose had their Ebay clearout..... which I was!
It really is a lovely model - far bigger, heavier, and more menacing that what actually tipped up as the production model.
Regards,
Dave
So thats where it went, lucky sod. For me the final G'vrahn was a real disapointment compared to the prototype, still bought a few though.
Funny if I had never seen the prototype probably would have found it fine since it looks like a advanced larger version of the Thentus.
Probably half the weight of metal v the prototype, which was obviously a complex cast as well, so I can see the sound business reasons for the resculpt.
I'm going to be controversial and say the origional G'Vrahn was aweful, what was with all the spines? and it was a bit too bulky for my liking.
now don't get me wrong, the new G'Vrahn wasn't the best, but it looked decent enough, although my idea for a G'Vrahn, utilising a tri wing design like the scout was much better ;-)
now don't get me wrong, the new G'Vrahn wasn't the best, but it looked decent enough, although my idea for a G'Vrahn, utilising a tri wing design like the scout was much better ;-)
hiffano said:
Agreed that spines are a bad idea, (same with prototype Ka Bin'tak and I guess that this idea tied the two models together) and maybe was a bit too bulky for its level but you can say the opposite on the production G'Vrahn, not bulky enough for a war level ship.
Must agree with Foxmeister that the prototype G'Vrahn was heavily weaponed menacing looking ship that says Narn in capital letters. even has a D7 bridge for goodness sake, how more menacing can you get.
Greg Smith
Mongoose
I prefer the new G'Vrahn. The new Ka'bin'tak isn't quite bulky enough in comparison to other armageddon ships though.
I did start a ship which I decided would be scratchbuilt using only available Mongoose ships & parts. (Build article in mind). Never saw it as a Brivoki saw it more as the prototype tech test before they built the Armegeddon ship.
It was basically a Milani mated to a Tashkat main Fuselage with a couple of Shakaras as outriggers plus a few of the spare fins here and their.
Actually looked quite good as a test build but never got around to finishing it and with the demise of the line, pretty difficult for any one to source bits, so its currently part built sitting in my to do crate.
A complete redesign (& renamed)scratchbuild) of the "Brivoki" is certainly on the cards but I still might build an actual Brivoki, call me crazy but I think it is the sheer size of the "mini" that impresses me.
It was basically a Milani mated to a Tashkat main Fuselage with a couple of Shakaras as outriggers plus a few of the spare fins here and their.
Actually looked quite good as a test build but never got around to finishing it and with the demise of the line, pretty difficult for any one to source bits, so its currently part built sitting in my to do crate.
A complete redesign (& renamed)scratchbuild) of the "Brivoki" is certainly on the cards but I still might build an actual Brivoki, call me crazy but I think it is the sheer size of the "mini" that impresses me.
