Kadorak said:
And the Accurate trait is still in the Revised ACTA book, it's not in SFOS because SFOS only includes additions and changes. Accurate is still in as was so no need to go in SFOS.
Eh, I'm looking at my ACTA Revised Edition rulebook, and I don't see the Accurate trait in there anywhere. What exactly did it do?
My apologies sir, I have just examine dthe soft copy of Revised Rulebook 1 that I was supplied with by MGT HQ and it has it in, but you are correct, the actual Revised rule book 1 does not contain it. I can oonly assume I have a late preproduction soft copy pdf, as all the other changes that are in Revised are in it.
My apologies to all in the thread for my mistake, I mainly use the soft one as it lies next to my PC which is nearer than my ACTa shelf :lol:
Here is the text of the Accurate Quality:
Accurate: These weapons do not roll their AD to hit as other weapons must do. The incredibly advanced targeting computers onboard will automatically hit any ship that is attacked with this weapon system. As such, every Attack Die of the weapon is rolled as a hit on the targeted ship. Accurate Beam weapons automatically hit once; subsequent rolls to hit only need a 3+ roll of the AD to hit again. As long as these secondary hits roll 3+, they may be re-rolled to to inflict further hits on a 3+.
Again my apologies. I now move on to a firmer grounding in my next debate.
Khamul said:
First Ones should ignore Minbari stealth. Reason is simple. Stealth does not prevent the ship from being seen. Shadow and Vorlon ships physically see the target, then the weapons (Telepathically and/or neurally linked) are told "aim here". No real electronic systems to jam, which is one of the big advantages of the organic ships.
For that matter, simple televisual guided missiles should be able to target Minbari ships quite nicely.
There is no reason to assume that Minbari Stealth would be completely ineffectual against the First Ones. Ignoring the old arguement about whether Minbari stealth is Active or Passive, it is reasonabnle to assume that it affects sensors at various wavelengths of the EM spectrum, but not visible, as we can see the ships. Unless it's really clever and we're seeing them other than where they are, unlikely and I digress.
We do not know how First One ships 'see', it may be in the visible spectrum or at other wavelengths. If at other wavelengths then there is no reason to assume that the Minbari stealth tech won;t have some effect. I mean they fought the Shadows 1000 years ago and knew they would return, it stands to reason they would tweak their stealth to have an effect on Shadow vessels at least.
As for visually targetting something in space, barring artistic license, in space there is not a great deal of light , half of everything is usually in shadow, and there is a hell of a lot of black to hide in. Think of how hard it is to spot a plane flying overhead on a clear day, and there you have the sound to help you, no such lucjk in space, again barring artistic licence. At distance even large spaceships are pretty dinky small.
LBH