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apoc527 said:
MGP produces the vast majority of "Traveller." If they die or simply stop Traveller (not that a few complaining fans will cause that), then there really won't be much "Traveller."

There wouldn't be the 3I AND, people like rust wouldn't care.

Thanks for pushing my point.
 
DFW said:
Then it doesn't matter as someone could write something similar without the 3I setting & word Darrian and it would be as useful.
Do you really think someone could publish something like this outside of
a well established line of a major roleplaying games publisher, where he
can be moderately certain that the fans of the setting will buy enough co-
pies to make it profitable ?

Remove the name "Traveller", and with it the almost guaranteed number
of sales to fans of the Third Imperium, and something like Darrians turns
into a commercial suicide for author and publisher. This is why I buy the
Third Imperium material, although I really do not like that Third Imperium
- without it and the "purchasing power and willingness" of its fans in the
background that material would not be written and published.
 
rust said:
DFW said:
Then it doesn't matter as someone could write something similar without the 3I setting & word Darrian and it would be as useful.
Do you really think someone could publish something like this outside of
a well established line of a major roleplaying games publisher, where he
can be moderately certain that the fans of the setting will buy enough co-
pies to make it profitable ?

Remove the name "Traveller", and with it the almost guaranteed number
of sales to fans of the Third Imperium, and something like Darrians turns
into a commercial suicide for author and publisher. This is why I buy the
Third Imperium material, although I really do not like that Third Imperium
- without it and the "purchasing power and willingness" of its fans in the
background that material would not be written and published.

QED
 
DFW said:
apoc527 said:
MGP produces the vast majority of "Traveller." If they die or simply stop Traveller (not that a few complaining fans will cause that), then there really won't be much "Traveller."

There wouldn't be the 3I AND, people like rust wouldn't care.

Thanks for pushing my point.

"Traveller" has brand name recognition in the sci-fi RPG market, even rust acknowledges that. Your "point" is blunt, best just to surrender gracefully.
 
rust said:
DFW said:
Then it doesn't matter as someone could write something similar without the 3I setting & word Darrian and it would be as useful.
Do you really think someone could publish something like this outside of
a well established line of a major roleplaying games publisher, where he
can be moderately certain that the fans of the setting will buy enough co-
pies to make it profitable ?

Remove the name "Traveller", and with it the almost guaranteed number
of sales to fans of the Third Imperium, and something like Darrians turns
into a commercial suicide for author and publisher. This is why I buy the
Third Imperium material, although I really do not like that Third Imperium
- without it and the "purchasing power and willingness" of its fans in the
background that material would not be written and published.

That's rather disingenuous to the guys who wrote the MGT core book, and frankly to the guys who wrote the CT rules.

If I understand what you are saying correctly, it matters not a whit what the system was as long as it has the Traveller name on it, and conversly a game system without the Traveller name won't stand a chance?

There certainly is a base of consumers who will purchase anything with Traveller on it - and the multiple different versions of the game are testament to that, but equally there is a base who don't care that it's called Traveller, or the 3I setting, but do like a good, generic SFRPG.

I have no idea what those demographics are. Personally, I probably have a foot in both camps to a certain extent. I'm not fussed about 3I setting per-se, I usually create my own sectors and subsectors to use and plunder from a variety of sources to poulate them.
 
GJD said:
That's rather disingenuous to the guys who wrote the MGT core book, and frankly to the guys who wrote the CT rules.
When Classic Traveller was published, there was not much competition on
the market (if any), and when MGT was written Traveller was already an
established brand. I just doubt that an attempt to sell the MGT system un-
der a less "financially attractive" name would have worked, there probab-
ly would not have been enough sales to pay the author and the printer.
If I understand what you are saying correctly, it matters not a whit what the system was as long as it has the Traveller name on it, and conversly a game system without the Traveller name won't stand a chance?
Not that extreme, but the Traveller name guarantees a number of sales,
while a new brand does not.
 
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