Looking for some advise on the Omegas.
- Thread starter Stonehorse
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Okay, what part of 'effectively' did you not understand. What part of 'due to needing to turn' did you not understand.
If you do not need to turn (or may turn without it being counted as a turn) then you can use CAF (and some of the others).
/rant on
God the number of times I have had to flocking argue this crap is starting to really piss me off. I know this is all in fun to some degree but please lets not start down the road to 'boresights are not really a problem for anyone' style comments again. They severly restrict the action of the ship that wants to shoot the weapon. Do they make the ship stupid or unusable, no...but it is a real restriction on what it can and cannot do in comparrison to the F S P A or T arc brethren out there.
/rant off
All ranting aside I know it was just poking fun but the Centauri crew are right now typing madly in other threads that bore is not a problem arc for most races dependant on it.
Ripple
If you do not need to turn (or may turn without it being counted as a turn) then you can use CAF (and some of the others).
/rant on
God the number of times I have had to flocking argue this crap is starting to really piss me off. I know this is all in fun to some degree but please lets not start down the road to 'boresights are not really a problem for anyone' style comments again. They severly restrict the action of the ship that wants to shoot the weapon. Do they make the ship stupid or unusable, no...but it is a real restriction on what it can and cannot do in comparrison to the F S P A or T arc brethren out there.
/rant off
All ranting aside I know it was just poking fun but the Centauri crew are right now typing madly in other threads that bore is not a problem arc for most races dependant on it.
Ripple
Tank
Mongoose
Ripple
As my main fleet is EA I well understand the issues of boresighting and the limits it brings in regards to special actions. I have seen too many times to count Centauri players turning round and saying it isnt an issue and just think its highly amusing.
Anyways back on track, I would probably always choose a standard Omega ove the Pulse variant just due to the 30" Hvy Laser, if your gonna go for twin linked take Nova's.
As my main fleet is EA I well understand the issues of boresighting and the limits it brings in regards to special actions. I have seen too many times to count Centauri players turning round and saying it isnt an issue and just think its highly amusing.
Anyways back on track, I would probably always choose a standard Omega ove the Pulse variant just due to the 30" Hvy Laser, if your gonna go for twin linked take Nova's.
Locutus9956
Mongoose
Personally Id go for snipey goodness with the Standard Omegas, sure all those pulse dice are nice but its really not all that hard to snipe with the Omega, and if you take a couple of oracles too, you not only have more initiative sinks but they can redirect those beams too 
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If you want outright pulsey goodness, then perosnally as LDtheD suggested youd be better off taking 2 Nova's. Sure theyre not as tough but I reckon 2 of them are more surviveable than 1 Omega and they can throw out an AWFUL lot of dice in other directions too. Plus 8 flight of Starfuires are not to be sniffed at either
.If you want outright pulsey goodness, then perosnally as LDtheD suggested youd be better off taking 2 Nova's. Sure theyre not as tough but I reckon 2 of them are more surviveable than 1 Omega and they can throw out an AWFUL lot of dice in other directions too. Plus 8 flight of Starfuires are not to be sniffed at either
katadder that is not correct.
Unless for some reason a Primus and an Omega are chicken.
In 99% of all cases:
The Primus will be moving at an oblique angle to the Omega. Hard to do a real diagram but let me try....
Primus ------>
<--------Omega
Yer so the Omega turns toward the Primus, and says: "Smack boresighted."
Primus simply moves 4" forward and says: "Smack CAF and you cant fire!"
Unless for some reason a Primus and an Omega are chicken.
In 99% of all cases:
The Primus will be moving at an oblique angle to the Omega. Hard to do a real diagram but let me try....
Primus ------>
<--------Omega
Yer so the Omega turns toward the Primus, and says: "Smack boresighted."
Primus simply moves 4" forward and says: "Smack CAF and you cant fire!"
On the poll.
I'd go for a reguler Omega over the Pulse variant, as has been said it is a sniper platform, and it does not suffer from its main weapons being interceptable.
From your fleet, you have useful initiative sinks in the Poseidon; it'll haunt the back of the table spewing Starfuries/Thunderbolts and providing a +3 Initiatice bonus, and your three Brawlers. The Omega's should generally be the last things you move to allow you the oppertunity to make the most of the available (i.e ships that have not moved) targets.
If your feeling particularly brave and nasty, squadron the Omega's up. 8 AD of Super AP, Double Damage Beams will put a crimp in anyones day.
I'd go for a reguler Omega over the Pulse variant, as has been said it is a sniper platform, and it does not suffer from its main weapons being interceptable.
From your fleet, you have useful initiative sinks in the Poseidon; it'll haunt the back of the table spewing Starfuries/Thunderbolts and providing a +3 Initiatice bonus, and your three Brawlers. The Omega's should generally be the last things you move to allow you the oppertunity to make the most of the available (i.e ships that have not moved) targets.
If your feeling particularly brave and nasty, squadron the Omega's up. 8 AD of Super AP, Double Damage Beams will put a crimp in anyones day.
Locutus9956
Mongoose
even with the fighter update in armageddon though I personally dont think the Posseidon is WORTH a War pick, it may look big and tough with all those interceptors and hit points but even if it sits right at the back just wait and see what happens in almost EVERY game, it gets blow to pieces incredibly rapidly (consider just how many SAP beams most races can put into it for a war points worth of ships (especially the centauri, minbari and god help you if youre fighting the new improved Vorlons )
)Iain McGhee
Mongoose
Depends who your'e up against. If the enemy has heavy armour and/or Interceptors then take the standard version.
Lorcan Nagle
Mongoose
Voronesh said:
well the only option the EA commander has there is to try and ensure the Omega moves second, so you can boresight after the Primus moves.
Yes but we are talking Omegas here.
Ofc a second turn via different ship class or Come about will allow more maneuvers. But for an Omega gettig the Come about isnt going to happen all the time.
@Nagle
ofc Boresighted ships have to move second, or rather after the target they want to shoot. It is VERY rare that you can actually boresight something before the target moves.
But that is kinda the case of boresight versus forward arc.......
Ofc a second turn via different ship class or Come about will allow more maneuvers. But for an Omega gettig the Come about isnt going to happen all the time.
@Nagle
ofc Boresighted ships have to move second, or rather after the target they want to shoot. It is VERY rare that you can actually boresight something before the target moves.
But that is kinda the case of boresight versus forward arc.......
