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urobach81 said:
the centauri gets stronger and stronger and the rest of the races...and :

That's my influence! :twisted:

Seriously the Centauri are not getting stronger just that the two fleets previously identified as the strongest (ISA and Minbari) have been toned down, and no game would be complete without x is overpowered discussions. The Centauri are now perceived as the new overpowered list when in reality it's a problem with about 3 of their ships (Tertius/Prefect/Sulust)
 
emperorpenguin said:
urobach81 said:
the centauri gets stronger and stronger and the rest of the races...and :

That's my influence! :twisted:

Seriously the Centauri are not getting stronger just that the two fleets previously identified as the strongest (ISA and Minbari) have been toned down, and no game would be complete without x is overpowered discussions. The Centauri are now perceived as the new overpowered list when in reality it's a problem with about 3 of their ships (Tertius/Prefect/Sulust)

i know, i know. I am a centauri player, too.
but i also played all the other races... i have a shadow fleet, a vorlon fleet, a EA fleet, Narn and Minbari and i mean some of the centauri abilities gets to strong, i think.
you had heared it overall in the forum.... this "super, mega beams are
to strong" theme, for example. but this are problems that i can´t fix, and
no other ACTA player can do that. :roll:

but we are not here to discuse about the problems of balancing or single race problems.... :oops:
 
urobach81 said:
i know, i know. I am a centauri player, too.
but i also played all the other races... i have a shadow fleet, a vorlon fleet, a EA fleet, Narn and Minbari and i mean some of the centauri abilities gets to strong, i think. s:

if played right I think the shadows are extremely strong
 
emperorpenguin said:
urobach81 said:
i know, i know. I am a centauri player, too.
but i also played all the other races... i have a shadow fleet, a vorlon fleet, a EA fleet, Narn and Minbari and i mean some of the centauri abilities gets to strong, i think. s:

if played right I think the shadows are extremely strong

yep, but the shadows are first ones...they must be strong,or?
i understand this balancing problems... centauri and shadows..the centauri are an old race, but not ancient like the shadows, example:in the tv show, shadows against centauri, open battle...goodby centauri. in the game you can beat the shadows..why..., it is a game and when only the shadows or other advanced races only win...boring. this are simple problems.

and since armaggedon...nah..i am sure you know the problems with shadows, too. not enough ships, there premier warship at a unplayable level and so one.... :roll:
 
Greg Smith said:
Dr. Seltsam, you were bemoaning the lack of new ships published, when in fact there have been ships published.

Now if you were bemoaning the lack of miniatures released, I could understand. Mongoose has singularly failed to release many of the ships from Armageddon, has long-lasting problems with the Drakh ships and casting issues with older ships.

I have been told there will be a delay with my ordered Warlock. There was a delay with my previously ordered Olympus. A friend of mine has just bought a large number of Centauri ships, none of which had holes suitable to take the stands and an Octurion that was shockingly badly cast and impossible to assemble.

Now I think ACTA is a great game, and I think Mongoose supports the rules very well and responds to the requests of the players, even though the constant changes put some people off. They obviously have problems with the minis though.

@ Greg
I maybe wrong but i think the Adira is the only new ship ( mini ) available at the moment. Stats are available but no minis for the other ships. Again : Maybe im wrong ... if so - im sorry.

If i remember correct not everbody was happy with the design of the new ship ( minis ). That's why i mentioned the issue of "interesting ship design".

Yep, some minis are of a really bad casting and/or hard to get.
I will have to do some serious pinning and filling up of the holes on my EA fleet before i can paint it. The front of one of my Omegas is almost not existing. Not sure how i can "rescue" this one at all ...

On the other hand Mongoose has some really well made casts for other ships ( no qualtiy problem up to date with any of my Shadow or Minbari ship ).
 
emperorpenguin said:
urobach81 said:
the centauri gets stronger and stronger and the rest of the races...and :
The Centauri are now perceived as the new overpowered list when in reality it's a problem with about 3 of their ships (Tertius/Prefect/Sulust)

I think you are right but would add the Primus as well. :twisted:
The Centauri player of our gaming group now makes a new approach for campaign playing. He picks his list but leaves the variants (Prefect, Tertius...)
out. We will see how it works.
If it solves the problem that would be a good and easy way to re balance the fleet. (Centauri got a huge load of ships anyway, nobody will recognise if 2 or three are missing :D )
 
Sorry, just flicking through here...bad head too, alas not from beer :-(

anyway, several of the new mini's are out, the Adira, which i like, the Liati, which is hideous, the marathon, which actually loks alot better close up and personal.

As a Narn player, I automatically hate the Centauri, but I don't see them as overpowered, sure, they are tough, and a bit scary, and I get spanked by them at Tourneys, but I have beaten them. No one individual fleet is hideaously overpowered, and it's down to a few ships. People say the Ka'Toc is to hard, however I rarely have one last more than a round or two as they are easily removed by most fleets.
I understand Mongoose are new to mini's, but still, 2 years plus you think they could crank out a few minis on schedule ;-) Imagine how bad it will get if they do release all these new proposed fleets and ships! :roll:
All I want is a proofed, well thought out book. At the end of the day, the aim of business is to make money, but if you are going to put out overpriced books, and expensive badly cast ships, you will loose customers, and in the long run make less money. Personally, I would respect mongoose a lot more if they announced they were having problems, stopped releaseing stuff for a couple of months, and adressed the issues, instead of them trying to churn stuff out, and failing dismally.
 
the nemesis, whitestar carrier, gunship and fighters, plus now the i think the marathon is out. these are all available in addition to the adira. the adira however is the only big ship (model wise) to make it out and its nto a bad model, altho something a little smaller would have been nice.
 
Yeah, the move to huge models for Armageddon level ships is... well, somewhat bothersome. The ACTA models are already very substantial at war level (Sharlins, Bin'taks, Primus - all well sized and imposign) - now having gotten my hands on a Vorlon HC, I think it's the ideal size for Armageddon, and getting bigger is just overkill.

It's nice to have big models that lumber around the table scaring people, but for practical purposes (building, basing, transporting) they're not great.
 
DrSeltsam said:
@ Greg
I maybe wrong but i think the Adira is the only new ship ( mini ) available at the moment. Stats are available but no minis for the other ships. Again : Maybe im wrong ... if so - im sorry.

As someone else pointed out several have been released, but the Neroon, Brivoki, G'Vrahn, Ka'bin'tak, big-Drazi-something-hawk :) , Z'takk are not even on the release schedule.

If i remember correct not everbody was happy with the design of the new ship ( minis ). That's why i mentioned the issue of "interesting ship design".

You are right. I liked many of the designs, although they were probably too expensive for me currently.

On the other hand Mongoose has some really well made casts for other ships ( no qualtiy problem up to date with any of my Shadow or Minbari ship ).

There are some ships that are a joy to put together and paint. Regretably as anyone who has studied customer service will know, on average people are far more likely to complain about a bad experience than talk about a good one.
 
Greg Smith said:
Regretably as anyone who has studied customer service will know, on average people are far more likely to complain about a bad experience than talk about a good one.

You mean like everytime I have ordered stuff from, its has never com quickly. Or, I get the same apology email for the same order, three times in one day!

Oh before anyone quips, "order from another supplier". They are having problems too, getting stuff from Mongoose too. :(
 
Just a thought. Seems like most of the casting quality problems seems to relate to AoG models(well apart from Drakh mothership :D). Could it be problem with master models that are causing trouble? Haven't had any problems whatsoever with SST models myself(well apart from the plastic models not taking well to my usual plastic glue but OTOH plastic they use have other qualities in it's benefit so it's okay) so it's not like Mongoose cannot produce good quality models.

Just a thought. But having in recent months enlargened my SST collection by quite a bit, plastic and metal models alike, didn't find anything to complain at. Only problems came from my own stupidity like gluing things in wrong order which causes fun things with their weight(might also help if I would get better GLUE to glue with...) but hey. Who told me to be stupid :lol:
 
The problems seem to be more with the shiny new models, eg the armageddon releases, and of course the slug from outer space.
 
hiffano said:
The problems seem to be more with the shiny new models, eg the armageddon releases, and of course the slug from outer space.

OTOH new releases(well relatively anyway) in SST haven't had problems. Why the difference then?
 
beats me. We know some of the existing ships have issues, but the moklds must be getting damned old, the Octurion and BinTaak "wings" being priome examples. the newer ships though, or at least the larger ones, seem completely unsuitable for casting it seems with molds collapsing all over the place, I thought SST was plastic myself, they are cast in China to my knowledge using a different company.
 
hiffano said:
beats me. We know some of the existing ships have issues, but the moklds must be getting damned old, the Octurion and BinTaak "wings" being priome examples. the newer ships though, or at least the larger ones, seem completely unsuitable for casting it seems with molds collapsing all over the place, I thought SST was plastic myself, they are cast in China to my knowledge using a different company.

If I remember back to my days in GW, they should have Pewter masters. So all they need to do, is create some new vulcansized rubber moulds, and then hey presto!
 
yeah, you would hope so wouldn't you, but 6 months or so to repair the damned drakh mothership. I actually ordered mine about 9 months ago and am still waiting.
 
hiffano said:
yeah, you would hope so wouldn't you, but 6 months or so to repair the damned drakh mothership. I actually ordered mine about 9 months ago and am still waiting.

All I am waiting on is 3 T'Loth wings, and 6 stands of fighters
 
T'Loth wings?! surely you should just buy the preformed T'Rakk at double the cost.
 
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