League of Non-Aligned Worlds Book

[LoneStranger]

Your making the assumption that I have either the Stargate book or the Traveller book. I'm not going to spend the $30+ (SG-1) or the $50 (T20) just to use mebbe five pages. That's why I want these guys to do it as a file or as part of the Babylon Companion if that'll ever get put back on the schedule. At least get a planet generator as part of a book I plan to buy ya know?

 

[Waylander.]

The racial characteristics adjustmentrs are not the same in the main book (+2 dex, -2 con) and in the league book (+2 wis; -2 str) whereas the other league members have the same characteristics more or less. which is the good one ?

 

[Dastari]

The racial characteristics adjustmentrs are not the same in the main book (+2 dex, -2 con) and in the league book (+2 wis; -2 str) whereas the other league members have the same characteristics more or less. which is the good one ?

Are you referring to the Abbai? If so I would use the characteristics in the League book as they were a conscious decision to make the Abbai more like they are depicted on the show although I believe that there is a footnote in the League book saying that you can use whichever version that you like.

I'm kind of surprised that this thread has such a huge gap. Where was the reaction from everyone when the book was released and they found out that only FIVE(!?!?!?!?!?!?) of the League races were included? I know that I for one am annoyed that the Vree were in there when they're only even shown in one episode of the show but the Pak'ma'ra are off and on in all five seasons. Where's the Pak'ma'ra section?

 

[Waylander.]

Are you referring to the Abbai?

yes I was, where i my damn head when I need it, I forgot to precise it.

If so I would use the characteristics in the League book as they were a conscious decision to make the Abbai more like they are depicted on the show although I believe that there is a footnote in the League book saying that you can use whichever version that you like.

ok with me.

Where's the Pak'ma'ra section?

on signs & Portents 3 ;-)

 

[lastbesthope]

I know that I for one am annoyed that the Vree were in there when they're only even shown in one episode of the show but the Pak'ma'ra are off and on in all five seasons.

Well I'm sure they're in the background a lot, there is the one we see in the Ombudsman scene where a translator is needed, however we also see their ships in the thick of it at Corianis VI

LBH

 

[Dastari]

I know that I for one am annoyed that the Vree were in there when they're only even shown in one episode of the show but the Pak'ma'ra are off and on in all five seasons.

Well I'm sure they're in the background a lot, there is the one we see in the Ombudsman scene where a translator is needed, however we also see their ships in the thick of it at Corianis VI

LBH

The Vree are only ever actually shown in the episode with the Ombudsman. Other than that we see their ships a lot (such as in the Deathwalker episode and at Caroianis VI and flying around the station and etc). I always figured that someone involved with the show hated how fake the Vree guy in the Ombuds episode looked and decided that they shouldn't appear again, but that episode doesn't even tell you that the character is a Vree. I always wondered what the Vree looked like because of this. As such they're a far more minor race than the Pak'ma'ra which are in A LOT of episodes and IMHO offer far better role playing possibilities. Still, I figure even the Hyach and Markab deserved an entry more than the Vree.

 

[Brother Theo]

There are several other races listed in the League book that need expounded upon, such as the Llort, Markab, and others. I just watched "Deathwalker" and saw the Ashan (sp?) ship. Not sure what race they are in the League, more the reason to have a supplement to add the other races.

Brother Theo

 

[lastbesthope]

Well the Markab are pretty much a dead race after "Confessions and Lamentations" The Xon are almost as worthy of a write up as they are.

LBH

 

[LoneStranger]

Devote a few pages in a Second League book for dead races, give each one a page or two mayhaps?

 

[frobisher]

Well the Markab are pretty much a dead race after "Confessions and Lamentations" The Xon are almost as worthy of a write up as they are.

The Markab probably deserve a full write up as they were a very active participant in the Dilgar war (a rich era for a campaign to my mind) and there are still Markab around (now there's a character with "motivation" during the Shadow War...).

 

[Dastari]

Well the Markab are pretty much a dead race after "Confessions and Lamentations" The Xon are almost as worthy of a write up as they are.

LBH

But the Xon did get a write-up in the Centauri book. As such, I think that the Markab at least deserve more than the paragraph that they received in the Player's Handbook. Like the Dilgar, they're also a fun race to choose if you're setting a campaign in the past as well as the fact that there are certainly some of them left in some area of space since they were a spacefaring race.

 

[Dastari]

The Markab probably deserve a full write up as they were a very active participant in the Dilgar war (a rich era for a campaign to my mind) and there are still Markab around (now there's a character with "motivation" during the Shadow War...).

This is why I've been saying all along that there ought to be a second edition to the League of Non-Aligned Worlds book. The Pak'ma'ra, Markab, and Hyach are all major League members in the series (members who had speaking lines and at least some plot points) and I feel that at least those three deserve the full treatment of having their histories, weapons, and ships expounded upon as well as some updated rules for some of them to make them more attractive to players. Two other races such as the Llort and Yolu could also be added as playable races to round out the book and thus give us another five League races.

 

[frobisher]

This is why I've been saying all along that there ought to be a second edition to the League of Non-Aligned Worlds book.

Absolutely - some of the "fun" races have barely been scratched so far.

The Cascor are so a PC race...

The Grome not so much, but the Hurr most definately.

Ipsha might be tricky, but do need a write up.

The Hyach are an absolute must (again Dilgar War era especially) as are the Yolu (now there's a race of contradictions...).

And quite frankly some of the "dead" races from the Dilgar War would be fun (the Mitoc and the Alacan would definately have the meat for a PC to get his teeth into).

And obviously the Llort. What's not to love about a Llort

Pak'ma'ra might be tricky to keep in character though...

 

[Dastari]

This is why I've been saying all along that there ought to be a second edition to the League of Non-Aligned Worlds book.

Absolutely - some of the "fun" races have barely been scratched so far.

I too would love to see even more races displayed especially like the Mitoc that you mentioned in the rest of your post. Stracynski went out of his way to show that in the B5 universe the aliens aren't just basically humans with a different forehead, so it would make sense for us to use more of the truly alien type species. A small race would be nice, since so far they're all medium.

I'd love to make N'Grath's race a playable race as well.

Still, I have a special love deep in my heart for the Pak'ma'ra. I can't explain it. I just think that visually they're one of the coolest alien races that I've ever seen in a TV show and I think that it's great that they're everywhere but everyone goes out of their way to avoid them. I'd love some expanded rules for them.

 

[lastbesthope]

Well the Markab are pretty much a dead race after "Confessions and Lamentations" The Xon are almost as worthy of a write up as they are.

LBH

But the Xon did get a write-up in the Centauri book.

I had forgotten that. I'd be happy for more races to be fleshed out for PCs but we don't want to have too many in the mix.

LBH