Latent Telepaths

[frobisher]

And Blips that they don't even know the rating of yet.

If they don't know about you, you're fine... Otherwise, you'll need some form of protection.

They wouldn't come after a P1 or 2 (not with the troubles going on), but if they have reason to think you're, say, a P8 or stronger or have particular rare talents (teek for instance) then you've got problems.

But that's what you get for playing a non-Corps human teep

GM's are evil like that...

I know I have been :twisted:

 

[lastbesthope]

Old Peculier! Mmm Mmm good!

Or Irn-Bru, either one would help!

We have one firm rule of drinking in my family:

"No more than 1 pint of Southern Comfort (or other spirit of your choice) without a sleep!"

A rule to live by, I think you'll all agree!

LBH

 

[crizh]

Made in Scotland, from girders....

Mmmmmmmmm bubbles....

[Perurbatio] My bubbles!!! [/Perturbatio]

 

[lastbesthope]

Perturbatio can have all the bubbles he wants but he ain't getting my Gegg! (Pronounced Jeg (like keg) a Lanarkshire colloquialism for Irn-Bru)

LBH

 

[Perturbatio]

Made in Scotland, from girders....

Mmmmmmmmm bubbles....

[Perurbatio] My bubbles!!! [/Perturbatio]

You can keep those bubbles, they're manky and covered in ginger stuff.

 

[lastbesthope]

You can keep those bubbles, they're manky and covered in ginger stuff.

Funny you should say that. ginger is a term colloquially used in Glasgow and the environs for anything that's a soft fizzy drink.

But Irn-Bru is not ginger coloured it's rust coloured, due to the real Iron ions in it (Ammonium Ferric Citrate, that sweet, sweet caffeine catalyst). If you spill it on your clothes it's just as bad as a rust stain.

LBH

 

[Barbara]

Frobisher said They wouldn't come after a P1 or 2 (not with the troubles going on), but if they have reason to think you're, say, a P8 or stronger or have particular rare talents (teek for instance) then you've got problems.

I've got problems anyway. It has something to do with the GM saying"Thanks for giving me an excuse to send a 10th level character against the group"(Note. against not after.)
Well they know she's at least a P7, due to the traces hanging around for 6hrs after they got to the last place in Earth space she was. (It was a really bad time to roll 4 on a d4, when you wanted to be able to get Jamming) Unfortunately they will also have an idea she's partly trained as she's been using the +2 modifier to not leave "fingerprints". Fortunately, due to lack of cash, she's been using low quality transport, so there's no passenger lists of her. She hasn't used her abilities on anyone else ( she works as a Facilitator- amateur) so they can't find out what she can do or look like by scanning people she's done things to.
To quote somebody else" Class. Class. Shut up"
Your research questions for todayare.
Some questions posed by other people in our group when writing up characters. ( or attempting to)

1. Why do only 3 of the telepath prestige classes increase your telepath level(and save DC vs your abilities) . Minbari grand telepath, Military specialist and psi cop?

2. Why do only these 3 get new telepathic abilities to choose?
as opposed to fixed class ones.

3. Why do most of the prestige classes no longer get T-feats?

4. How do you get Black Fist at level 6 WITHOUT using any feats ?
With using feats?
ie. Balance and Medical are not BOTH class skills for any class, and you require 6 levels in each.
I could only think of using 2 feats at first level to get hobbies in those two skills.
5. How does the Bloodhound get the 2 new telepath abilities in the Psi Corp book that are only taught to Bloodhounds (without getting more levels in telepath)? They don't get any new telepath abilities.

6. What would a Psi-Cop do with a Technomage? Run them in on principle, as a new type of Telepath and just dissect.. sorry study them and keep all the shadowtech.


Which colourful sentence/metaphor?

 

[Barbara]

Don't bother. Found it. The one word one.

 

[Anonymous]

The last post was only a reference to the colourful metaphor no to all the questions.

The only thing I really have to worry about is the GM giving me a moral dilemma which may give me away. Would you warn a Psiu Cop following you that someone was going to try to kill them.

Barbara

 

[frobisher]

1. Why do only 3 of the telepath prestige classes increase your telepath level(and save DC vs your abilities) . Minbari grand telepath, Military specialist and psi cop?

I'm sure Black Ops Specialist gets it as well.

3. Why do most of the prestige classes no longer get T-feats?

That doesn't matter, as a telepath you can select a telepathic feat when feats become available.

4. How do you get Black Fist at level 6 WITHOUT using any feats ?
With using feats?
ie. Balance and Medical are not BOTH class skills for any class, and you require 6 levels in each.
I could only think of using 2 feats at first level to get hobbies in those two skills.

I don't have my books to hand so I'm just thinking on my feet here, but at a rough guess you're going to have to compromise

Yes, you require 6 levels, but remember your limit on purchasing is level + 3 (ie you don't need to spend the points at a one per level basis); So your first level is in Teep (remember as a P1 or 2 you get a bonus feat (that'll do for a hobby for balance), level 2 as teep (you want to actually be half useful as a teep), level 3 multiclass to a Scientist and pick up medical and then work on up

6. What would a Psi-Cop do with a Technomage? Run them in on principle, as a new type of Telepath and just dissect.. sorry study them and keep all the shadowtech.

Run from them in terror mostly... Seriously.

But it's known that the 'Mages aren't teeps but "merely" using technology of some description it's not known outside of the order that this is Shadowtech and even inside the order it's known to a small few.

Basically, a Psi Cop wouldn't have any reason to try and run them in and a lot aren't human, so don't fall under their auspices anyway.

 

[Sneaky]

Basically, a Psi Cop wouldn't have any reason to try and run them in and a lot aren't human, so don't fall under their auspices anyway.

I'd have to disagree - Psy Corps would love to get their hands on any new and powerful technology, if only to stay one step ahead of mundanes.

 

[frobisher]

Basically, a Psi Cop wouldn't have any reason to try and run them in and a lot aren't human, so don't fall under their auspices anyway.

I'd have to disagree - Psy Corps would love to get their hands on any new and powerful technology, if only to stay one step ahead of mundanes.

Sorry, I should have said "legitimate reason"

 

[lastbesthope]

Bothersome detail at most :twisted:

LBH

 

[Barbara]

I thought the attitude was, that if it was part of the investigation(well they were with thye Blip) then it's legitimate.

 

[lastbesthope]

You can;t harrass everyone who's interacted with the blip, even if they travelled with them, they might not have known, I mean the blip is unlikely to advertise the fact, are they?

LBH

 

[frobisher]

4. How do you get Black Fist at level 6 WITHOUT using any feats ?
With using feats?
ie. Balance and Medical are not BOTH class skills for any class, and you require 6 levels in each.
I could only think of using 2 feats at first level to get hobbies in those two skills.

I don't have my books to hand so I'm just thinking on my feet here, but at a rough guess you're going to have to compromise

Yes, you require 6 levels, but remember your limit on purchasing is level + 3 (ie you don't need to spend the points at a one per level basis); So your first level is in Teep (remember as a P1 or 2 you get a bonus feat (that'll do for a hobby for balance), level 2 as teep (you want to actually be half useful as a teep), level 3 multiclass to a Scientist and pick up medical and then work on up

Just checked up on this, and it's really easy to do, the only thing you have to remember is you're not aiming to be a commercial teep (lets face it, as a P1 or 2 you'll be crap at it, and you'll have maxed out your Telepathic Abilities you can take after two levels).

Level 1, Teep (P1 or 2) You've got 3 Feats available to you so Hobby(Balance), Endurance and Great Fortitude sort you out, and you can easily afford to buy 4 points in each of Balance, Climb, Jump and Telepathy.

Level 2, Teep again, so you can get yourself Communication. Beyond your level based adjustment to telepathy rolls, you're done with Telepath as a class now. (+1 to the above skills)

Level 3 Scientist 6 points in Medical, +1 to Balance, Climb, Jump and Telepathy. You're now done with every skill but Telepathy. You get another Feat here so you could delay one of Endurance or Great Fortitude until now.

Level 4 and 5 Scientist. Add one point to Telepathy each time.

And you're sorted

Alternatively - forget about the Hobby Feat, multiclass into Agent as well at level 4 and blast Balance up. Agent is probably a good class for a Black Fist to have...

Remember, as of second printing there's no XP penalty for multiclassing

 

[Barbara]

That seems like a good method. The only problem being that Black Fist are meant to be reasonably good fighters and at level 6 theirattack = tele (1) + scientist (1) + agent (0) = 2 + stat mod. That's actually worse than my agent/telepath.

Frobisher wrote:Beyond your level based adjustment to telepathy rolls, you're done with Telepath as a class now. (+1 to the above skills)
What level based adjustment? It's only your telepath levels and only a few of the telepath prestige classes increase it. Black Fist isn't one of them.
Your DC is stuck at P1/2 + stat + L2

Haven't got the Earth Alliance book. Will have to check saturday (as our intrepid duo try to find the criminals- the rest of the party isn't there yet) I think that what they've done with the two new abilities only available to Bloodhounds is make two of there class features into abilities, which seems kind of stupid, since they're the only ones that can get it and it's already described in their description. i know they get quick scan but do they get a version of mass scan. Why do I always think of these things when I don't have the books with me.

 

[scottmage]

To quote somebody else" Class. Class. Shut up"

That was me from an old Cheech and Chong recording.

4. How do you get Black Fist at level 6 WITHOUT using any feats ?
With using feats?
ie. Balance and Medical are not BOTH class skills for any class, and you require 6 levels in each.
I could only think of using 2 feats at first level to get hobbies in those two skills.

Like you, I am not sure how you get those skills, however a character would have to take level +3 (which is a conundrum, how do you get to be Level 1 Black Fist if there are Prerequisits to become a Level 1), then you would have to take Skill Focus which would put the character's skill level to 6 in both. If you are using the D&D 3 Player's Handbook, Humans get a bonus feat at first level.

 

[frobisher]

That seems like a good method. The only problem being that Black Fist are meant to be reasonably good fighters and at level 6 theirattack = tele (1) + scientist (1) + agent (0) = 2 + stat mod. That's actually worse than my agent/telepath.

What makes them better is the biokenisis... I did suggest taking some levels as Agent instead, it just doesn't yield as many skill points.

Frobisher wrote:Beyond your level based adjustment to telepathy rolls, you're done with Telepath as a class now. (+1 to the above skills)
What level based adjustment? It's only your telepath levels and only a few of the telepath prestige classes increase it. Black Fist isn't one of them.
Your DC is stuck at P1/2 + stat + L2

That's exactly what I was saying :roll: The only reason to take any more Telepath levels is to improve your DC; That's the only benefit in taking any more levels in Telepath (you've taken every Telepathic Ability you're eligable for as a P1/2, and now that you've got the various Class Skills you can improve them with no penalty). So, yes, effectively you're only getting a +1 DC shift per level (due to the requisite skill increase) rather than +2 (skill plus Telepath Level adjustment) but that's not insurmountable.

 

[frobisher]

Like you, I am not sure how you get those skills, however a character would have to take level +3 (which is a conundrum, how do you get to be Level 1 Black Fist if there are Prerequisits to become a Level 1), then you would have to take Skill Focus which would put the character's skill level to 6 in both.

If you are using the D&D 3 Player's Handbook, Humans get a bonus feat at first level.

The racial descriptions in the B5 RPG override the ones in the PHB; However, humans still get the bonus feat at first level, and P1/P2 Telepaths get another bonus feat as well. You can't take Black Fist at First Level though; One of it's prerequisites is that you're a Telepath of P1 or P2 which you can't do unless you take Telepath as your first level

But you can become a Black Fist Feat Free by becoming a triple classed Telepath/Scientist/Agent first though.

But le's face it, no one takes a Teep character to be a P1 or 2 though, do they