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Drahazar

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I think the ISA should be required to take so many points of FA from other races. In the show every major battle they where in had ships from other races. The ISA should play whatever ships they want from there list in Raid and down but when its Battle and up they should be required to take so many FA worth of member races. The whole fleet is crazy.
 
Few comments...

We see all whitestar fleets attack the Vorlon outpost and the Shadow Omega fleet at least. I thought there was another major fight that was all whitestar as well. Hardly small fights.

Second, and I really am not being nasty here, but weren't you one of the folks who was telling people to stop complaining and learn to play the game as is? Just wondering if that was you and if you changed your mind on the balance of the game, and if so why? I'm interested in what forms folks opinions on things related to the game and what changes them.

Ripple
 
In season 5 you see plenty of times where White Stars operate on their own - Vs the raiders early on, when they rescue Babylon 5 from the red-helmetted aliens, and when Sheridan races to Centauri Prime to stop the Narn and Drazi attack all spring to mind.
 
No kidding yes they can but its not mandatory. And no where did I state anything saying that they where unbeatable. I am just saying that they should be required to pull from other fleet lists like the psi corps fleet. and the white star fleet attacked a single out post and there was no other ships of the vorlons present that would be a raid. in season 5 that was just white stars jumping in first to deal with shadow omegas so the rest of the fleet did not get destroyed and a lot of white stars got beat up really bad in that battle. Yes sheridan dose but he was way outnumbered by centari and the fleet that was present in destroying centari prime. And no its not balance Its what I believe the ISA is. there a police force not a major military might there military might comes form the alliances between other races. If they went around as the biggest millitary they would be resented by it. thats why sheridan worked hard to have the other worlds give ships to the alliance and work together in combat situations like battle and above. I just think the ISA should have a requirement for FA to be spent on othe world ships.
 
And wher is it relevent that ISA should know about psi corps. that has nothing to do with the fact I think ISA should have that requirement. whether the psi corps fleet is known to other fleets is irrelevent. I think and its not to offten when i do that ISA should not get more ships some I think they should not have at all but should be required to take other fleets ships. Sheridan even said he did not want the ISA to become a super military power and that it was vital that in engagements of large scales other member races ships need to be present otherwies the ISA would become resented and not trusted.
 
When the ISA is acting as the ISA, it hasn't ever to my knowledge taken allies from other fleet lists. This is a holdover from the Army of Light IIRC. Personally I prefer seeing the current rules for the ISA and different rules for the AoL.
 
they have in the books as well in season 5 against the centari. Its just my opinion based off what i have read in the books and the mandate of the ISA and the responsiblities of the member races to support ISA actions.
 
Drahazar said:
I am just saying that they should be required to pull from other fleet lists like the psi corps fleet.
WTF??!?!?!?!!

Sorry that statement alone makes me just stop reading. When did ISA EVER use Psi Corps ships? In fact they were usually fighting against them.
 
Maybe the White Star fleet didn't FIGHT by itself that often in the show (4 times I think), but they regularly Threatened to fight only to have others back down.
The ISA fleet is an elite force. They might not fight unsupported a lot, but they do.
 
Drahazar said:
And wher is it relevent that ISA should know about psi corps. that has nothing to do with the fact I think ISA should have that requirement. whether the psi corps fleet is known to other fleets is irrelevent. I think and its not to offten when i do that ISA should not get more ships some I think they should not have at all but should be required to take other fleets ships. Sheridan even said he did not want the ISA to become a super military power and that it was vital that in engagements of large scales other member races ships need to be present otherwies the ISA would become resented and not trusted.

UMMM So why does Sheridan decide he needed Victory class destroyers ? Cause ISA needed more firepower themselves without having to use Allies
 
the Whitestars were needed to be repaired or canablised to fix others so he thought that something bigger to take out bigger ships other than using the Whitestars all the time.

so he asked his good friend and former B5 security chief to start the design work on the QT.
 
Lorcan Nagle said:
Not exactly what he said - Drahazar is wrong though because he's assuming the Psi Corps are required to take 2 FAP of EA ships.
Well... what he said could be taken both ways. One being blatantly wrong (Psi Corps required to take allies), I assumed he meant the other ;)

He also sent me a rather aggressive PM. Must be the season of happiness and goodwill to all men :roll:
 
well its what you said that turned to make a responce aggressive. However yes I know psi corps are not required to take it but the ISA I think in my opinion should be required to take so many FA of other races ships when it comes to battle or war and above. And I think Victorys should be limited to one I have played agains 2 of them and 4 white stars and even a Vorlon Heavy cruiser gets beat up by victorys pretty easily.
 
The ISA deploys on-screen many times without allies. Better to stick to what is on-screen rather than make up stuff because it fits how you personally think it should be. Even both Victories are deployed in one on-screen battle! Your opinions have no fluff justification whatsoever.
 
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