Insane Weapons

BP

Mongoose
I like making up and researching new gear for my players.

Here are some I came across accidentally :D

Most of them I'd heard of (though can't speak to their veracity), but Acoustic Kitty was a new one that had me rolling...

And Project Pigeon might have merit for lower TL ship missiles 8)

Enjoy
 
BP said:
I like making up and researching new gear for my players.

Here are some I came across accidentally :D

Most of them I'd heard of (though can't speak to their veracity), but Acoustic Kitty was a new one that had me rolling...

And Project Pigeon might have merit for lower TL ship missiles 8)

Enjoy

Either an insane idea, a players wet dream, a model for a traveller ship-mounted atomic missile , or all three.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29

200px-DavyCrockettBomb.jpg




Add a pigeon, and you're good to go !
 
How about Tac-Nuke Hand Grenades - great in low G Environments..

Mind you those nuclear land mines where a great idea.......
 
captainjack23 said:
Either an insane idea, a players wet dream, a model for a traveller ship-mounted atomic missile , or all three.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29

200px-DavyCrockettBomb.jpg
The deployment of these weapons over here was one of those things that
caused a little doubt which side our supposed allies really were on ...
 
rust said:
captainjack23 said:
Either an insane idea, a players wet dream, a model for a traveller ship-mounted atomic missile , or all three.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29

200px-DavyCrockettBomb.jpg
The deployment of these weapons over here was one of those things that
caused a little doubt which side our supposed allies really were on ...

the other side of the atlantic per chance?

... once it goes nuclear I don't think there are any "sides" just losers
 
Insane weapons for us but not so for someone like the 3I.

Battledress armoured troops are easily capable of surviving short range nuke blasts if they have cover available. Plus with Ndampers the mess afterwards is easy to clean up if you plan on keeping the land.

Tough enemy bunker, toss in a nuke grenage. Enemy armour dug in somewhere, tac nuke mortar or missile carried by the heavy weapon Battledress.

Of course the enemy will most likely be sheltering under Ndamper fields and lobbing nukes back. Nukes, plasma and fusion weapons, radiation everywhere :D

Unrestrained warfare in high tech traveller, Lucans black war in the rebellion :twisted:

Then afterwards the clean up crew Ndamper it all better :D

Nukes have always been strategic/political weapons on earth. Even the little jeep mounted peewee ones like this would almost never have been used becasue of having to get permission to use it from up the chain of command. Plus by the time someone says yes or no the target is long gone.

Ndampers move nukes down to tactical weapons because the long term effects can be removed, they are simply a bigger bang rather than a weapon that will radiate an area making it useless for years.
 
middenface said:
Mind you those nuclear land mines where a great idea.......
Especially the chicken powered version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_powered_nuclear_bomb

I especially like the basic idea behind the plan to deploy them over here:
"...not only destroy facilities and installations over a large area, but...deny occupation of the area to an enemy for an appreciable time due to contamination..."

Well, at least our British allies who had developed that slightly unfriendly
plan to make Germany uninhabitable "for an appreciable time" reconsi-
dered the idea in a moment of sanity, although I am not absolutely cer-
tain whether they wanted to spare the chickens or us. :shock:
 
rust said:
Well, at least our British allies who had developed that slightly unfriendly
plan to make Germany uninhabitable "for an appreciable time" reconsi-
dered the idea in a moment of sanity, although I am not absolutely cer-
tain whether they wanted to spare the chickens or us. :shock:

Heh I had heard we had come up with that one... :D

Yeah Save Chickens, they taste better....
:D
 
Well between the nuclear land mines and the russians running the fulda gap by charging into the clouds left by nukes exploding ahead of them even the cockroaches would be moving out.

The russians even designed a tank just to drive towards nuclear bursts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okTc-87-XvU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obyekt_279

The shape of the hull was intended to minimise the shockwave from a close nuclear burst allowing the tank to drive through the blast and attack the shocked survivors :D
 
And in order to avoid the impression that only the western governments
suffered from a severe case of nuclear insanity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
The fireball ... was seen and felt almost 1,000 kilometres (620 mi)
from ground zero. The heat from the explosion could have caused
third-degree burns 100 km (62 miles) away from ground zero.
Well, Khrushchev was never very subtle, he really loved to show off ... :shock:
 
Actualy Davy is just the most obvious of the tacnuc weapons. Most of them seem to have had a minimum range that put the user at risk. But then so do many regular weapons. Certainly you can throw a grnade close enough to blow yourself up.

The thing is, to shoot that close you need a reason. I have seen howitzer fire dropped almost on top of the armor unit calling for it. Why? Thats where the very many bad guys where. Same thing with a nuke. If you are going for a Soviet Motorized Rifle Regiment onlyu a few ks away, you are already in a heap of trouble. Dead is dead, whither it is by rad poisoning or squashed by a T-72.

I lived in Germany for a lot of years. i have no more desire than Rust to see large sections of it glowing. I like German beer and all those friendly German girls you could meet up by the border. The thought of them caught in a nuke blast is flat horrible.

But them caught in a napalm strike or one of my regular arty shells is not very cool either.

So yes Davy Crocket is at the extreme end, but is not really that different than other things, just a bit of scale is all.
 
Captain Jonah said:
Ndampers move nukes down to tactical weapons because the long term effects can be removed, they are simply a bigger bang rather than a weapon that will radiate an area making it useless for years.

Cold comfort to the people affected by the immediate rads and fallout. You can use NDampers to rehabilitate the area, but that's like saying you can rebuild Dresden after the firestorm. Nuke Dampers won't help with damage already caused*, which can linger for generations. So it doesn't *quite* become just another tactical option. But the situations in which their use become acceptable does broaden with NDs and deep space environments.

(* and I suspect being subjected to a ND field may not be totally healthy for people)
 
I've never understood how nuclear dampers could be used to 'clean up' radiation and remove radiation effects as Captain Jonah ( and others ) believe.

I've always been under the impression that nuclear dampers can manipulate the strong and weak forces to either retard radioactive decay or to accelerate it depending on whether a 'node' or 'anti-node' is focused on the radioactive material.

If its used to retard radioactive decay, then it has to be powered constantly while being focused on its target and although MgT doesn't seem to worry about power requirements, in older versions the nuclear dampers need a lot of power to operate.
Its also doubtful that it could cover a large area in this mode of operation.
In the end, the radioactivity still exists everywhere; its just suppressed so long as the machine is working. Once the machine is shut off or aims somewhere else, the decay continues right where it left off.

If on the other hand, its used to accelerate radioactive decay to get rid of it quicker, then all that radiation would be released within a shorter time-frame, which would be hazardous to say the least.
 
Ishmael said:
I've never understood how nuclear dampers could be used to 'clean up' radiation and remove radiation effects as Captain Jonah ( and others ) believe.
I assumed they meant for the dampers to be used to 'safely' allow for the proper cleanup - i.e. retard the decay, then remove the radioactive material with water, burial or other direct means...
 
Accelerating the decay rate would reduce the amount of radioactive material though by how much would probably depend on the half-life of the material though as I think the half life of most of the nasty stuff is relatively short this should work pretty well. Yes they would emit more radiation while they decay but once decayed that is it – though how the field affects contaminated materials I do not know. If I knew more I could probably make a good guess but this is way outside my field, A level physics was a long, long time ago and did not cover much of this sort of thing anyway.
 
Yeah, you do get the impression that Germany was written off by the rest of NATO (and the USSR) as a general battleground, with France and the UK as 'fall back positions'....

rust said:
middenface said:
Mind you those nuclear land mines where a great idea.......
Especially the chicken powered version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_powered_nuclear_bomb

I especially like the basic idea behind the plan to deploy them over here:
"...not only destroy facilities and installations over a large area, but...deny occupation of the area to an enemy for an appreciable time due to contamination..."

Well, at least our British allies who had developed that slightly unfriendly
plan to make Germany uninhabitable "for an appreciable time" reconsi-
dered the idea in a moment of sanity, although I am not absolutely cer-
tain whether they wanted to spare the chickens or us. :shock:
 
rust said:
middenface said:
Mind you those nuclear land mines where a great idea.......
Especially the chicken powered version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_powered_nuclear_bomb
Ok - I'll bite... (follows link hoping computer stays free of any avian flu...)

Well that idea was for the birds! :lol:

Hmmm...
  • Comrade chairman, once again we have seen an inordinate amount of chick related activities in these areas here and here...

    We are not sure, but there appears to be a pattern developing in conjunction with the local incidents of what appear to be two headed chickens, glowing in the dark, as seen by these night time reconnaissance photos taken last week...
(Note: All puns intentional!)
 
Yeah, you do get the impression that Germany was written off by the rest of NATO (and the USSR) as a general battleground, with France and the UK as 'fall back positions'....

Growing up being told that your village was the 'default co-ordinates' for quite a large number of tactical nuclear weapons must have messed with your head as a kid...
 
locarno24 said:
Growing up being told that your village was the 'default co-ordinates' for quite a large number of tactical nuclear weapons must have messed with your head as a kid...
Well, the majority of roleplaying games produced in Germany has post-
apocalyptic settings, although the reason for the apocalypse has recently
changed from nuclear war to climate change ...
 
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