Ideas for new rules for "Construction Decks"

[Condottiere]

How do you estimate where it is going to be if you never knew where it was to begin with?

Edit - and I believe I said, by the rules. Your response had no rules attached to it.

1. Unless I'm mistaken, gunners would aim for centre mass.

2. The gunner is told that it's necessary to take out a spacecraft that happens to being manufactured in the construction deck.

3. Schematics are called up, and let's assume the construction deck is centralized, but towards the ass end of the it's installed spacecraft.

4. The gunner adjusts the aim hundred metres to the right.

5. If the dice gods are with him, the meson delivers it's load exactly hundred metres to the right of centre mass.

6. The gunner has done his job, and unless the explosion is enough to blow out the walls of the construction deck, whether the target is actually damaged or destroyed, would be unknown.

7. Or, the gunner could keep on blowing his load in the middle of the targetted spacecraft.

 

[Sigtrygg]

How do you aim for centre mass of a starship when its mass is not defined?

 

[Condottiere]

A direct development of the planimeter known as an integraph, or integerometer, can be used to establish the position of the centroid or center of mass of an irregular two-dimensional shape. This method can be applied to a shape with an irregular, smooth or complex boundary where other methods are too difficult. It was regularly used by ship builders to compare with the required displacement and center of buoyancy of a ship, and ensure it would not capsize.[22][23]

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The center of mass of the adult human body vertically is 10 cm above the trochanter (where the femur joins the hip),[29] 1.4 cm forward of the knee and 1.0 cm behind the trochanter.[30] In kinesiology and biomechanics, the center of mass is an important parameter that assists people in understanding their human locomotion. Typically, a human's center of mass is detected with one of two methods: the reaction board method is a static analysis that involves the person lying down on that instrument, and use of their static equilibrium equation to find their center of mass; the segmentation method relies on a mathematical solution based on the physical principle that the summation of the torques of individual body sections, relative to a specified axis, must equal the torque of the whole system that constitutes the body, measured relative to the same axis.[31]

 

[Sigtrygg]

Shipyards are three dimensional and we don't know their mass.

 

[Condottiere]

Targets at a distance look rather two dimensional, so you aim for the centre.

Meson weapon systems make it three dimensional, and so, you aim for the centre of the centre.

Called shot means shifting the aiming point to a specific spot.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

How do you aim for centre mass of a starship when its mass is not defined?

Denistometer. You target the largest mass in what is mostly open space. You should have a rough shape and be able to deduce where the engines are. Wreck the engines and optionally the bridge and they are back to square one and likely have a damaged construction bay.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Targets at a distance look rather two dimensional, so you aim for the centre.

Meson weapon systems make it three dimensional, and so, you aim for the centre of the centre.

Called shot means shifting the aiming point to a specific spot.

If you aim for the centre of 2D shaope that is really 3D then you have no idea where the "centre of volume" is, for that you need to know the hull configuration.

You don't know where the centre of volume is unless you know the volume and configuration

A specific spot on the surface, you need more information about the target to aim for a specific volume.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Denistometer. You target the largest mass in what is mostly open space. You should have a rough shape and be able to deduce where the engines are. Wreck the engines and optionally the bridge and they are back to square one and likely have a damaged construction bay.

Don't have the range or the target locking capability of weapon aiming sensors.

And you don't know its mass... mass is not a defined parameter of Traveller ships in this version.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

You don't need the mass merely the relative density variations.

 

[MasterGwydion]

1. Unless I'm mistaken, gunners would aim for centre mass.

2. The gunner is told that it's necessary to take out a spacecraft that happens to being manufactured in the construction deck.

3. Schematics are called up, and let's assume the construction deck is centralized, but towards the ass end of the it's installed spacecraft.

4. The gunner adjusts the aim hundred metres to the right.

5. If the dice gods are with him, the meson delivers it's load exactly hundred metres to the right of centre mass.

6. The gunner has done his job, and unless the explosion is enough to blow out the walls of the construction deck, whether the target is actually damaged or destroyed, would be unknown.

7. Or, the gunner could keep on blowing his load in the middle of the targetted spacecraft.

Again. I see a lot of words, but not a single rule. How is this supposed to be helpful in game? How does this apply to my question?

 

[Condottiere]

Ships at a range of Short or less may attempt to make called shots with direct-fire weapons (not missiles or torpedoes). The attacker nominates the location they wish to target and then makes an attack roll with DM–2. If the attack is successful and scores a critical hit, the attacker may choose which location is hit.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Ships at a range of Short or less may attempt to make called shots with direct-fire weapons (not missiles or torpedoes). The attacker nominates the location they wish to target and then makes an attack roll with DM–2. If the attack is successful and scores a critical hit, the attacker may choose which location is hit.

So, that is it? It is a -2 for the Called Shot even if you can't see the target? Or do other rules apply?