How to handle point sink fleets ? Help required

[skavendan]

OK I play Psi Corps my options are limited at best.

My patrol level ship is Shadowcloak-class Escort Which when I look at some other Patrol level ships I think man I got a rubbish ship. Some races seem to get excellent Patrol level ships I refer to some Nice 2 for 1 Narn ships and the Blue star here.

On top of that I get a Fighter Carrier for Skirmish level again I am not convinced its worth the hassle.

Other than spending my EA allocation points on low level ships which seems a real shame as I have so little variants available to me how does one cope with Hordes of patrol level ships.

Or do you simply ignore trying to get priority and beam some low level ships till you can beam on something good?

So any advice would be welcome.

Also is the Shadowcloak-class Escort actually an Escort ship? It doesn't say it has that ability yet it is included in the name?

 

[Greg Smith]

The Shadowcloak doesn't get the escort trait.

It is the best scout in the game - patrol level with a CQ bonus. But it isn't a powerful ship by any means.

Now if you are looking at the mothership, then you do need initiative sinks. But the Hunter doesn't - it has a front arc beam. If your EA allies include a Nova or an Avenger, then you don't need too many sinks.

 

[CZuschlag]

Sink with your EA points, and use a ship that others don't seem to like but I do -- the Chronos. It gets bad press here, and, I admit, I haven't run it, but I like the ship; it runs under Close Blast Doors very well, has the super-flexible T arc main weapon system so it can threaten large areas / get behind other fleet elements. The guns are big enough to make Patrol-level craft worry about imminent destruction from the fire of two Chronos. If you must go down further, the Hermes is passable; the Myrmidon is a big gamble of a ship.

 

[Goldritter]

The Myrmidon is good if you fight against races, which don´t posses so much beams.

In a fight against the Narn a Myrmidon had survived the entire Game against a T'Loth, and got some nice Crits on it. And the rest of my fleet concentrate on the other Narn Ships .
And my opponend tried everything to shoot it down. But It lost only 1 or 2 Damagepoints.

Hull 5 and Interceptors is not bad for a Patrol Choice.

 

[EDFDarkAngel1]

As Psi Corps, I wouldn't bother taking ships at Patrol level, just use Black Omegas. They are invincible in dogfights and have dodge against AF.

Dark Angel

 

[Triggy]

As Psi Corps, I wouldn't bother taking ships at Patrol level, just use Black Omegas. They are invincible in dogfights and have dodge against AF.

Dark Angel

Yeah but if you're taking Motherships, you need initiative sinks.

I'd echo the others' opinions, unless you want a Carrier and two Shadowcloaks then Chronos Frigates and Hermes are probably the way to go. Myrmidons are much better when you are taking the fight to the enemy rather than trying to provide your Motherships with a chance to fire.

 

[thehod]

you need the shadow cloaks for scouting. for skirmish level I would buy some chronos and with raid and battle just use the mothership and hunter.

 

[H]

The Shadowcloak is an excelent little ship! I had some facing a wad of league and their stealth kept them alive through 6 rounds of firing, whilst all the time re-directing frinedly fire. they aren't damage dealers, but they are excelent sinks, and scout!
as others have said, the Chronos as your EA ally has good al round fire, and you do get 2 in the Psi Corps fleet box.

 

[Burger]

The Shadowcloak doesn't get the escort trait.

It is the best scout in the game - patrol level with a CQ bonus. But it isn't a powerful ship by any means.

Especially if you plan on flying it headlong into an asteroid field. BOOM!

 

[Taran]

The Shadowcloak doesn't get the escort trait.

It is the best scout in the game - patrol level with a CQ bonus. But it isn't a powerful ship by any means.

Especially if you plan on flying it headlong into an asteroid field. BOOM!

That happened at MavenCon to my Psi-Corps opponent...

But, the ShadowCloak is a good Scout.
And don't underestimate the Fighter-Carrier, either. It may only carry 2 flights of Black Omegas and have paltry firepower, but it's a tough little bugger...

 

[Taran]

Stupid double post...

 

[armbarred]

Yeah at Maven Con my shadowcloaks died to asteroid fields in 2 out of 3 games.

But I stand by the fact that they are awesome ships. And I also love the fighter carrier.

 

[David Anla Shok']

Sink with your EA points, and use a ship that others don't seem to like but I do -- the Chronos. It gets bad press here, and, I admit, I haven't run it, but I like the ship; it runs under Close Blast Doors very well, has the super-flexible T arc main weapon system so it can threaten large areas / get behind other fleet elements. The guns are big enough to make Patrol-level craft worry about imminent destruction from the fire of two Chronos. If you must go down further, the Hermes is passable; the Myrmidon is a big gamble of a ship.

I don't run Psi Corps but the Chronos rules, especially when squadroned up. It's tough, especially at CBD, and without it close in. It's a good knife fighter.

 

[Triggy]

I had a Fighter Carrier, Chronos and Shadowcloak taking out a White Star once - against Matt Sprange in S&P

Fighter Carriers and Shadowcloaks certainly aren't direct combat vessels but they can still hold their own.

 

[skavendan]

Well firstly thanks for all the replys some interesting comments.

After my fight against Earth + ISA last night am not so concerned about Blue/White stars now.

I will definitly be fielding some Chronos ships now.

When exactly are you suppose to do the psychic crew attack? end of the movement phase or ?

 

[Da Boss]

I had a Fighter Carrier, Chronos and Shadowcloak taking out a White Star once - against Matt Sprange in S&P

Fighter Carriers and Shadowcloaks certainly aren't direct combat vessels but they can still hold their own.

Ask Greg how much I dislike them Carriers - "oh don't worry they are easy to kill and no real guns" says he .......

mutter mutter as it survives hails of fire and kills ships of higher PL's

 

[lastbesthope]

Ah you made the mistake of trusting Greg, such a rookie mistake too.... :lol:

LBH

 

[Triggy]

I had a Fighter Carrier, Chronos and Shadowcloak taking out a White Star once - against Matt Sprange in S&P

Fighter Carriers and Shadowcloaks certainly aren't direct combat vessels but they can still hold their own.

Ask Greg how much I dislike them Carriers - "oh don't worry they are easy to kill and no real guns" says he .......

mutter mutter as it survives hails of fire and kills ships of higher PL's

Always plant a lie inside a truth, makes it easier to swallow

 

[Taran]

Shouldn't that be in quotes, Triggy?

 

[Triggy]

Shouldn't that be in quotes, Triggy?

Done