Hivers in Armored suits

[spidersrepublic]

Hivers: would they all walk around in high tech armored suits? like a hiver-built battledress?

They seem to hate violence, but surely in shady and scum-filled areas they would need protection.
What better protection than a high tech armored suit?

Anyway this was the impression i got from reading about hivers. They are extremely adept in robotics and computers, so it made sense to me that they would combine these skills into a way to preserve their own lives.

thoughts?

 

[rust]

No need for armour when one can have an escort of
Ithklur marines to keep problems away ... 8)

 

[ShawnDriscoll]

I'd say yes. I've seen artwork with them wearing armor and vacc suits. It's probably very rare though.

 

[Wil Mireu]

How does a Hiver even get into an armoured suit? Seems it would be a bit of a fiddly process...

 

[ShawnDriscoll]

How does a Hiver even get into an armoured suit? Seems it would be a bit of a fiddly process...

Same way as Iron Man does.

 

[Wil Mireu]

How does a Hiver even get into an armoured suit? Seems it would be a bit of a fiddly process...

Same way as Iron Man does.

So they can't get into a suit by themselves then? They need either other Hivers there to fit them in, or some gizmo to put all the bits on them?

 

[SSWarlock]

So they can't get into a suit by themselves then? They need either other Hivers there to fit them in, or some gizmo to put all the bits on them?

Well, the plumbing hookups would be much simpler than Iron Man's.

Hmm. Does Iron Man's suit have plumbing hookups?

 

[ShawnDriscoll]

How does a Hiver even get into an armoured suit? Seems it would be a bit of a fiddly process...

Same way as Iron Man does.

So they can't get into a suit by themselves then? They need either other Hivers there to fit them in, or some gizmo to put all the bits on them?

It is rare for one to have armor. The higher the TL, the better.

 

[Wil Mireu]

It is rare for one to have armor. The higher the TL, the better.

Maybe, but they still have to get into suits (e.g. vacc suits) from time to time.

 

[ShawnDriscoll]

Vacc suits would be an easier thing to put on, I imagine.

 

[Wil Mireu]

Vacc suits would be an easier thing to put on, I imagine.

OK, let's think through it then. How would a Hiver do it? Would it put on the 'core' around its body (I guess by clipping together segments around the limbs?) and then 'sleeves' on each of its limbs one by one using other limbs? That seems like it'd have to be really flexible (more so than they actually look).

It'd be easier to do with other hivers around to help. Certainly before any assisting tech was invented they'd have to use other hivers to do it (heck, humans can't generally put EVA suits on without help today).

 

[GypsyComet]

We know they can reach all the way under their bodies with at least one arm. Since Hivers are basically all arms with a boney central body, they should be able to "glove up" in a soft suit fairly easily, though it might take a rack at bulkier lower TLs.

Similarly with hard suits. A CT pic shows a Hiver doing a hand-stand. If they can do that, they have the reach and the strength to get into a properly designed hard or soft suit. The only feature a hardsuit needs to have for solo rackless donning is that the central body section retain its shape when there isn't a Hiver in it. It could even clamshell (and most probably do) with hinges on either side of the rear leg. The Hiver backs into it, seating the rear leg first and working in matched pairs forward, sliding into each limb glove and closing the body armor seals between limbs as he goes.

Knowing the Hivers and their talent for (and trust of) robotics, advanced hardsuits will have internal automation to handle much of the process.

Hivers have also been at power armor TLs (TL12+) for 3000 years. They've figured this stuff out long since.

 

[ShawnDriscoll]

One way is to have the Hivers go down a corridor towards an airlock. As he goes through the corridor, mech-arms hold the suit for him to walk/step into. The mech-arms pull the drawstrings until the suit is snug around the Hiver. Helmets are along the wall for the Hiver to grab and snap on. They are suited up at the end of the corridor near the airlock.

The opened-stretch suit can be held out in front for the Hiver to walk into, or the Hiver could step onto the suit laid flat on the floor and the mech-arms pull it up and over the Hiver and zip up on the top with the eva then mounted.

 

[AndrewW]

NASA has a sort of built in suit where you simply enter from the back and seal it up, no airlock needed. Maybe something like that could work. (Note not in actual use yet).

 

[Infojunky]

How does a Hiver even get into an armoured suit? Seems it would be a bit of a fiddly process...

Same way as Iron Man does.

Now that image amuses me....

Though I am pondering what the Hiver equivalent of "Not The Face!!!" is....

 

[spidersrepublic]

I would imagine the Hivers have the entrance and exit of powered suits down to a fine art. Perhaps suspended scaffolds, with floor entrances into the cockpit of armored suits. I remember there was a Jedi Academy level like this. A scaffold 5m off the ground, with hatches opening to the top of an AT-ST. a non hiver would probably have to navigate a complex locking/undocking system before getting into one of these suits. Assuming they make it into the Hiver Battle Suit Bay in the first place.

 

[Egil Skallagrimsson]

Good question this, not knowing the answer I spoke the Hiver who works in our IT department (to be honest, one of the more balanced and socially aware members of that team).

His voder gargled slightly, and he indicated that with much more flexible limbs and tentacles than humans, as well as handy suction cups, and a more compact torso ("not that long thin one you have"), it is much easier to put on a Hiver vac suit or combat armour.

He asks how do humans, with their clumsy jointed limbs ever manage.

Egil