HG 1e Capital Ship Crew Service and Capital Ship Design Service Crew calculation

[snrdg121408]

Hello all,

I do not believe that the Service Crew text and the Crew table match. The text entry

Service Crew
The ship itself may have a requirement for other sections which provide basic services, including shops and storage, security (especially if there are no ship's troops aboard), maintenance, food service, and other operations. Such personnel are drawn from the crew branch if no other appears appropriate. Allow 3 per 1000 tons if there are no ship's troops. This can be reduced to as low as 2 crew per 1000 tons of ship by replacing service crew with ship’s troops. Troops accommodated in barracks cannot be used to reduce the number of service crew embarked (see p. 67).

The table entry data is Section: Service; Base Crew: 2/3 per 1,000 tons.

The text clearly states that without ship's troops or the troops are in barracks the requirement is 3 per 1,000 tons or 2 if there are ship's troops that are in staterooms. I believe the table entry should be Base Crew: 3 or 2 per 1,000 tons.

The Capital Ship design example is carrying ship's troops/marines in staterooms the required service crew is roundup(75,000/1000 x 2,0) 150 and for being 1.21 over strength the total crew is roundup(150 x 1.21,0) 182.

 

[Condottiere]

The understanding is that two per thousand is the minimum service crew, and the one per thousand is approximately the required security contingent, and possibly damage control assist.

If you list the security contingent as a distinct component of the crew, you can stick to the two per thousand minimum.

 

[snrdg121408]

Morning PDT Condottiere,

The understanding is that two per thousand is the minimum service crew, and the one per thousand is approximately the required security contingent, and possibly damage control assist.

If you list the security contingent as a distinct component of the crew, you can stick to the two per thousand minimum.

My understanding, developed from posts on ct-starships, COTI, and GURPS Traveller, is that the base service crew requirement is 3 personnel per 1,000 tons unless ship's troops are being carried in which case the base service crew is 2 personnel per 1,000 tons. One third of the service crew personnel or 1 per 1,000 tons, without ship's troops, are security personnel.

I agree that the service crew security personnel probably take over the role of damage control parties when ship's troops are not onboard. From my real world experience in the USN I extend the personnel assigned to damage control to all the bodies not on watch when not at battle stations. During a battle all the bodies not assigned to specific combat related duties, which would be a majority of the service crew are the bodies manning the Damage Control parties.

Literally speaking separating the security personnel from the service crew makes them ship's troops, which I think would be either an over-stength platoon or an under-strength company from looking at the Unit Strength table in Mercenary 1e PDF (updated copy downloaded 2014) p. 74.