Foundation movie trilogy
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Awesome! Foundation on the big screen. 
Who is adaptaing this masterpiece of SF to the silver screen? Let me see...
Roland Emmerich...the name rings a bell. Let us see what is on this director's portfolio.
Independence Day
Godzilla
Eight Legged Freaks
The Day After Tomorrow
10,000 BC
2012
Hmmm...
Can I launch an appeal here for to form prayer groups to persuade the Almighty to smite Mr. Emmerich with incurable cancer before he gets a chance to "go Avatar" on The Foundation?
Thank You.
Who is adaptaing this masterpiece of SF to the silver screen? Let me see...
Roland Emmerich...the name rings a bell. Let us see what is on this director's portfolio.
Independence Day
Godzilla
Eight Legged Freaks
The Day After Tomorrow
10,000 BC
2012
Hmmm...
Can I launch an appeal here for to form prayer groups to persuade the Almighty to smite Mr. Emmerich with incurable cancer before he gets a chance to "go Avatar" on The Foundation?
Thank You.
Ack! Argh! Gurgle...
no, No, NOOO!
No appeals neccessary! Incurable cancer - that might take a while... (and sounds a bit harsh - well, looking at that list, just a tiny bit harsh!)
Coma sounds good. Can't screw up things if you're in a coma right? (well, and maybe a bad rash afterwards...)
no, No, NOOO!
No appeals neccessary! Incurable cancer - that might take a while... (and sounds a bit harsh - well, looking at that list, just a tiny bit harsh!)
Coma sounds good. Can't screw up things if you're in a coma right? (well, and maybe a bad rash afterwards...)
I seriously doubt that Emmerich would suddenly discover character andFovean said:
world development, especially when playing with 3D technology - all he
usually is interested in are special effects. As the saying goes over here,
if you want to enjoy an Emmerich movie, all you have to do is to turn off
all parts of the brain that are not necessary for eating popcorn. :lol:
To quote Wikipedia:
"A general consensus amongst critics is that Emmerich's films rely too
heavily on visual effects, and suffer from cliché dialogue, flimsy and
formulaic narrative, scientific and historical inaccuracies, illogical plot
development, and lack of character depth."
I wholeheartedly agree.
Yeah - a quote from the the article:
"It has to be done all CG because I would not know how to shoot this thing in real."
Gee, we can help him out on that one:
"...I would not know how to shoot this thing..."
Hey Roland - there's a 4D director's gig available at the local burger joint...
"It has to be done all CG because I would not know how to shoot this thing in real."
Gee, we can help him out on that one:
"...I would not know how to shoot this thing..."
Hey Roland - there's a 4D director's gig available at the local burger joint...
Vile said:
Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if that was near the truth.
Is it me, or has sci-fi only become more "mainstream" because film technical progress as taken strides this last decade(s).
The stories surely aren't any better than most of the stuff done in the 70s and 80s. But it seem this can be ignored when your visual senses are assaulted by a deluge of CGI.
Vargr said:
I thought Jackson did a great job with Lord of the Rings...
Sadly it's not just sci-fi, but pretty much all original stories that get hacked'n'slashed into lowest common denominator drivel and cheap (or expensive) effects are meant to compensate with wow-factor. But - people go out to see that drivel IN DROVES. Kind of a closed-loop system if you know what I mean.
My hope is that strong source material carries through, and it opens up a new generation to Asimov's work, like Jackson did for Tolkien.
While its been.. er.. some time since I've read the trilogy - I can't recall much in them that would 'require' a lot of special effects
They are great books in large part because the stories are about characters and plot - the only special fx needed could just as easily be matte paintings and wood/paper mache sets.
Granted, the world spanning scenes of Trantor (sp?) could gain some dynamic and nice hologram effects could be produced using CGI - but really, there isn't much in the way of superhero action effects or epic space battles featuring strongly in those books...
They are great books in large part because the stories are about characters and plot - the only special fx needed could just as easily be matte paintings and wood/paper mache sets.
Granted, the world spanning scenes of Trantor (sp?) could gain some dynamic and nice hologram effects could be produced using CGI - but really, there isn't much in the way of superhero action effects or epic space battles featuring strongly in those books...
Klaus Kipling
Mongoose
I think a movie trilogy of Foundation misses the point. There's no way they can cram in the ideas inthose books into a 3 act movie. They'd make a much better tv series.
BTW, I think the same about the LOTR movies; I don't think anyone could have really done a better job at translating Tolkien for the screen, but even Peter Jackson couldn't make actual 'films' of it (3-4 hour buttock-numbers with 5 or 6 false endings do not qualify as actual films in my book
). I'm looking forward to the 2030 BBC adaptation starring David Tennant as Gandalf...
BTW, I think the same about the LOTR movies; I don't think anyone could have really done a better job at translating Tolkien for the screen, but even Peter Jackson couldn't make actual 'films' of it (3-4 hour buttock-numbers with 5 or 6 false endings do not qualify as actual films in my book
). I'm looking forward to the 2030 BBC adaptation starring David Tennant as Gandalf...
alex_greene
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I suspect that Emmerich will prove Asimov's maxim by having the protagonists rely upon violence as the first, last and only solution to all of their problems.
Emmerich doing the "Foundation" is IMHO the best thing since Verhofen did "Starship Troopers". This might turn a set of extremly boring books (Only "Solaris" is a better sleeping aid) into something watchabel. Just like the "Starship Troopers" movie was watchabel while the novel belongs right next to "Mein Kampf" IMHO
Colin
Mongoose
Foundation would be tough for anyone to film, as nothing ever actually happens "on-camera", so to speak. It's mostly a lot of exposition and people standing around talking.
While Emmerich making it doesn't thrill me, I don't have a whole lot emotionally invested in the "Foundation" trilogy, it's not going to make me lose any sleep, or anything.
While Emmerich making it doesn't thrill me, I don't have a whole lot emotionally invested in the "Foundation" trilogy, it's not going to make me lose any sleep, or anything.
Quite - true.. Though that is exactly what a lot of the best movies are - with the better directors...
Foundation and Emmerich is a bad combination - both for him and fans of the book (well, he'll make a ton of money for mediocre work again....)
Maybe the CGI guys and script writers will have enough input to make it entertaining at least - though I can't see it following the books well enough to appease fans. And its not a good action/adventure plot to build that type of franchise on...
Foundation and Emmerich is a bad combination - both for him and fans of the book (well, he'll make a ton of money for mediocre work again....)
Maybe the CGI guys and script writers will have enough input to make it entertaining at least - though I can't see it following the books well enough to appease fans. And its not a good action/adventure plot to build that type of franchise on...
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Wow. I couldn't have more of an opposite viewpoint. I almost thought this was sarcasm at first.
As a fan of the Starship Troopers novel, I completely hated the movie that only had "scifi war against alien bugs" in common. The number one gimic of the book was power armored elite soldiers. These were replaced by masses of lightly armed troops. The patriotic military social system debated in the book was portrayed as extreme Nazi-Facism in the movie (perhaps your Mein Kampf reference is influenced by watching the movie and guessing what the book was about?)
I guess if Paul Verhoeven had actually read the book (he stated he didn't even finish it) the movie would have had more resemblance to the book. Instead he borrowed the title of the novel to rob fans of the book of some ticket money.
It could have been enjoyable and intelligent and was completely botched. Rename it, I'm fine with it. Just don't call that movie Starship Troopers after the novel. Very little in common.
Sorry, /rantoff
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