Earthforce Early Years

[LimeyDragon]

Deffo an Avenger is always a must brings a carrier into the fight as well as fighters, and at least 3 Novas to run fighter escort

I have never founf much use for an avenger, as it is right now i field up to 54 flights. Without carriers... Guess i can try it out and see how i like it...

 

[Iain McGhee]

The Early Years Avenger isn't as useful as the later ones in a battle as it doesn't have the Fleet Carrier trait. It's still worth taking in campaigns as it replenishes fighters for free, like all Carrier trait ships.

I'd go for some Olympus frigates and Orestes Dreadnoughts for your fleet. An Oracle or two and at least a quartet of Sagittarius cruisers are worth getting too. Ever seen what a squadron of missile ships can do to a cruiser, especially if it doesn't have interceptors left :twisted:
The Orestes is very slow and prone to being immobilised, but it's your only Hull 6 ship and can put out a huge amount of firepower.

 

[LimeyDragon]

The Early Years Avenger isn't as useful as the later ones in a battle as it doesn't have the Fleet Carrier trait. It's still worth taking in campaigns as it replenishes fighters for free, like all Carrier trait ships.

I'd go for some Olympus frigates and Orestes Dreadnoughts for your fleet. An Oracle or two and at least a quartet of Sagittarius cruisers are worth getting too. Ever seen what a squadron of missile ships can do to a cruiser, especially if it doesn't have interceptors left :twisted:
The Orestes is very slow and prone to being immobilised, but it's your only Hull 6 ship and can put out a huge amount of firepower.

Nothing freaks an apponent out more than finding out my Sagittarius cruisers are army with foward long range Missiles and Heavy Missiles for broadsides.. nasty..

 

[Triggy]

The Early Years Avenger isn't as useful as the later ones in a battle as it doesn't have the Fleet Carrier trait. It's still worth taking in campaigns as it replenishes fighters for free, like all Carrier trait ships.

I'd go for some Olympus frigates and Orestes Dreadnoughts for your fleet. An Oracle or two and at least a quartet of Sagittarius cruisers are worth getting too. Ever seen what a squadron of missile ships can do to a cruiser, especially if it doesn't have interceptors left :twisted:
The Orestes is very slow and prone to being immobilised, but it's your only Hull 6 ship and can put out a huge amount of firepower.

Actually, in 2nd ed. both have Fleet Carrier and both are available at Raid PL. This is part of the "making carriers sexy" programme

 

[LimeyDragon]

Actually, in 2nd ed. both have Fleet Carrier and both are available at Raid PL. This is part of the "making carriers sexy" programme

could you elaborate a little more on the EA carriers..?

 

[Tankdriver]

Nothing freaks an apponent out more than finding out my Sagittarius cruisers are army with foward long range Missiles and Heavy Missiles for broadsides.. nasty..

Funny, that is how I load mine too.

 

[Triggy]

Actually, in 2nd ed. both have Fleet Carrier and both are available at Raid PL. This is part of the "making carriers sexy" programme

could you elaborate a little more on the EA carriers..?

If you think of the 1st ed. Battle PL Avenger Carrier then you won't be far out (except it's now at Raid PL).

 

[LimeyDragon]

Nothing freaks an apponent out more than finding out my Sagittarius cruisers are army with foward long range Missiles and Heavy Missiles for broadsides.. nasty..

Funny, that is how I load mine too.

Do you also run 2 hyperions near them as cover support just incase..?

 

[MustEatBrains]

Nothing freaks an apponent out more than finding out my Sagittarius cruisers are army with foward long range Missiles and Heavy Missiles for broadsides.. nasty..

Funny, that is how I load mine too.

Do you also run 2 hyperions near them as cover support just incase..?

You hear that, all you "hyperion-nay-sayers"? It DOES have a use! A prime example of how a ship should be seen in the context of it´s fleet, and not directly compared to other fleets´ships of an equal level.

 

[Tankdriver]

Nope. I go for the line of battle, with the Sags moving to the side opposite the enemy. just like with the oracle. Of course I only had the chance to try it once, but the tactic worked well. It was a multiplayer game where we had to destroy the flagship of an enemy chosen out of a sack. The names of all the players were written on slips of paper, whoever you pulled, that was your opponent. Mine was unfortunately on the other side of the map, but the guy who got me was off to my side and came headlong at me. The Sags fired the long range missiles forward on turn and the next fell an inch, a single inch shy of the braodside against the target ship. Not wanting to waste the shot, I held off only to have another opponent blunder his command ship right underneath the guns of a Centauri beam team. It was over quick!

 

[LimeyDragon]

You hear that, all you "hyperion-nay-sayers"? It DOES have a use! A prime example of how a ship should be seen in the context of it´s fleet, and not directly compared to other fleets´ships of an equal level.

always use them as support vessels.. while they chase the big ship, my hyperions flank or position to fire at max.. great equallizer...

 

[Calistan]

The Early Years Avenger isn't as useful as the later ones in a battle as it doesn't have the Fleet Carrier trait. It's still worth taking in campaigns as it replenishes fighters for free, like all Carrier trait ships.

I'd go for some Olympus frigates and Orestes Dreadnoughts for your fleet. An Oracle or two and at least a quartet of Sagittarius cruisers are worth getting too. Ever seen what a squadron of missile ships can do to a cruiser, especially if it doesn't have interceptors left :twisted:
The Orestes is very slow and prone to being immobilised, but it's your only Hull 6 ship and can put out a huge amount of firepower.

Actually, in 2nd ed. both have Fleet Carrier and both are available at Raid PL. This is part of the "making carriers sexy" programme

The Avengers at Raid level make them a viable ship. I've considered a 5 Avenger Raid fleet. It is disappointing that the ship doesn't come in box set. I would like to see and Avenger box set with 8 flights of Star Furies or Tiger Star Furies.

I would also like to see all races get a Carrier at low levels because I don't think that fighters should be bought independently of ships.

 

[LimeyDragon]

I would also like to see all races get a Carrier at low levels because I don't think that fighters should be bought independently of ships.

I agree with you... Taking flgihts just cause you can, and having not support platform to launch off of is very strange..

 

[Target]

I would also like to see all races get a Carrier at low levels because I don't think that fighters should be bought independently of ships.

I agree with you... Taking flgihts just cause you can, and having not support platform to launch off of is very strange..

Sames

 

[LaranosTZ]

Actually, we see that rather often in the series. Starfury wings were deployed several times, (I can't quote episode names,) from Babylon 5 independant of any carrier or even any capital ship support to investigate raider attacks, among other things. Similarly, it was a squadron of frazi that discovered the remains of ragesh three, and they had arrived with no capital ship support. As I remember, in a couple of these occasions these fighters travelled several jumps away on trips lasting many hours to perform their duties. Now, also take into account that in a formation containing ships that have fighters, but are not 'fleet carriers' you could rotate squadrons in and out of the ships in order to resupply, rest, etc. and not all fleets really require a fleet carrier at low priority level, and would be quite capable of supporting wings included in a support capacity.

 

[LimeyDragon]

Actually, we see that rather often in the series. Starfury wings were deployed several times, (I can't quote episode names,) from Babylon 5 independant of any carrier or even any capital ship support to investigate raider attacks, among other things. Similarly, it was a squadron of frazi that discovered the remains of ragesh three, and they had arrived with no capital ship support. As I remember, in a couple of these occasions these fighters travelled several jumps away on trips lasting many hours to perform their duties. Now, also take into account that in a formation containing ships that have fighters, but are not 'fleet carriers' you could rotate squadrons in and out of the ships in order to resupply, rest, etc. and not all fleets really require a fleet carrier at low priority level, and would be quite capable of supporting wings included in a support capacity.

you are right, all the times garabaldi has gone after raiders with a squad of furies.. just still seems odd to me..

 

[Calistan]

B5 was parked right off a jump gate and the raider attacks seemed to be near jump gates, so it was probably a few hours ride to pop the raider.

 

[Drahazar]

I just watched a episode today where they sent like 2 wings of fighters from B5 to intercept omega fighters and transports that where going to attack a wing of star furies it did not say how far that wing of star furies where form a base or ship or how far the wings from B5 where. it was the episode mr. bester came to b5 and wanted to go to zahadoom (spelled wrong I know)

 

[Da Boss]

Shadow fighters tried to blow B4 up - on their own. Narn fighters often seen on their own as are B5's fighter wings.

 

[Burger]

Shadow fighters tried to blow B4 up - on their own.

They did have a rather large fusion bomb with them.